I want this to be a go-to podcast and I keep waiting for the sections that are more probing and challenging. I'm fine with hearing about various opinions of baseball and getting the background story of how people got to be doing what they are, but I haven't heard any analysis or critique that has gotten my attention. To be fair, I may not have listened far enough into the interview to get to those parts, but that in itself is a deficiency with the podcast. With so much to be listening to, Axelrod needs to grab me with an opener that makes me want to staff with it. The overall tone suggest that the style of the podcast assumed he would be doing interviews after a Clinton win, not wrestling with TrumpTV. I don't expect another "Pod Save America", but I do want to hear some more fire in his belly. I'm 60% through listing to Bill Kristol, wanting to know more about how some one as smart as he is, can hold some of his views, and I'm ready to bail. But I suspect I'll keep checking back in to see if he can get to four stars..