In this episode, Matt and Peter share an update on Summit and Reform with the listeners. They also share what the future plans are for the podcast. Is this the last episode?

Matt feels the effects of going truly viral on Twitter and now half the internet thinks he is a Twitter 10x engineer (and half think he is a comedian). Peter’s Tailwind gig comes to a close so he’s thinking about what’s next with Reform. This episode also brings the current Out of Beta season to an end, as Matt and Peter take a short break. They’ll be back.

Sponsor - Recast

Thank you to this month’s sponsor, Recast, a tool that helps podcasters turn long form video and audio content into short clips for social media, like TikTok, Instagram and Twitter. Import your podcast episode and select the part of the transcript you’d like to use, then, Recast will generate your clip for you.

Recast are offering something special for listeners of the show. They will make five free snippets of your podcast to the first three people that respond to the pinned Tweet of the Out of Beta Twitter account.

Show Notes Sponsor - DebugBear: Monitor site speed and Core Web Vitals

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Links

• Matt on Twitter
• Peter on Twitter
• Out of Beta on Twitter
• Summit - Matt's startup
• Reform - Peter's startup

Peter finds he has 4 million test rows in his database and needs to do something about them without breaking everything, while he still tries to nail down how to position Reform. Who exactly is Reform for and how does he communicate that? Matt is bringing a series of bets to a close and making some important changes, such as a move away from usage-based pricing.

Sponsor - Recast

Thank you to this month’s sponsor, Recast, a tool that helps podcasters turn long form video and audio content into short clips for social media, like TikTok, Instagram and Twitter. Import your podcast episode and select the part of the transcript you’d like to use, then, Recast will generate your clip for you.

Recast are offering something special for listeners of the show. They will make five free snippets of your podcast to the first three people that respond to the pinned Tweet of the Out of Beta Twitter account.

Show Notes Sponsor - DebugBear: Monitor site speed and Core Web Vitals

DebugBear continuously checks how long it takes to load your website and monitors the Core Web Vitals metrics that Google uses as a ranking factor. Test your website for free to get an in-depth analysis with recommendations to make your website faster.

Links

• Matt on Twitter
• Peter on Twitter
• Out of Beta on Twitter
• Summit - Matt's startup
• Reform - Peter's startup
• Daniel Zarick’s “Working In Bets” article

Peter reflects on the new integration with Less Annoying CRM, how a potential new Reform website would look like and his plans to double down on SEO. Matt is also seeing how SEO is having a positive effect on his rankings for Summit, while he figures out some more use cases for the calculators. Matt rounds off talking about his potentially controversial opinion on why startups of all sizes should have boards.

Sponsor - Recast

Thank you to this month’s sponsor, Recast, a tool that helps podcasters turn long form video and audio content into short clips for social media, like TikTok, Instagram and Twitter. Import your podcast episode and select the part of the transcript you’d like to use, then, Recast will generate your clip for you.

Recast are offering something special for listeners of the show. They will make five free snippets of your podcast to the first three people that respond to the pinned Tweet of the Out of Beta Twitter account.

Show Notes Sponsor - DebugBear: Monitor site speed and Core Web Vitals

DebugBear continuously checks how long it takes to load your website and monitors the Core Web Vitals metrics that Google uses as a ranking factor. Test your website for free to get an in-depth analysis with recommendations to make your website faster.

Links

• Matt on Twitter
• Peter on Twitter
• Out of Beta on Twitter
• Summit - Matt's startup
• Reform - Peter's startup

Peter has been away in the States, and quite liked his co-founder Bjorn taking care of support. Matt, meanwhile, has not been feeling much of a spark this week but brainstormed some new ideas for distribution.

Sponsor - Recast

Thank you to this month’s sponsor, Recast, a tool that helps podcasters turn long form video and audio content into short clips for social media, like TikTok, Instagram and Twitter. Import your podcast episode and select the part of the transcript you’d like to use, then, Recast will generate your clip for you.

Recast are offering something special for listeners of the show. They will make five free snippets of your podcast to the first three people that respond to the pinned Tweet on the Out of Beta Twitter account.

• Matt on Twitter
• Peter on Twitter
• Out of Beta on Twitter
• Summit - Matt's startup
• Reform - Peter's startup
• Embarque - Reform's SEO Agency

Matt’s Summit Chrome extension is live, meaning you can now get a calculator in just a click, and so he’s exploring new calculators to use with it. Peter is still sick but is working through it by getting deep into customer research, figuring out the best customers for Reform. Both Matt and Peter have horizontal products, so they discuss how this both helps and hinders them

Sponsor

Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.

Links

• Matt on Twitter
• Peter on Twitter
• Out of Beta on Twitter
• Summit - Matt's startup
• Reform - Peter's startup
• Matt’s Chrome extension

After a brief break, Matt and Peter are back with the maker manager format. Matt’s been building more calculators for Summit while kicking up the gears for sales and marketing. Peter’s founder hiking retreat was a success and he is now instrategic thinking mode. What’s next for Reform?

Sponsor

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.

Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.

Links

• Matt on Twitter
• Peter on Twitter
• Out of Beta on Twitter
• Summit - Matt's startup
• Reform - Peter's startup
• Caleb's Notes On Work where he talks about Peter's headless video
• Bob Moesta's Circuit Breaker podcast

This week, Peter is sick, but shows up to record the pod and talk Reform integrations, including one upcoming with Less Annoying CRM. Not being at 100% highlights why having a good cofounder can make a big difference. Matt is in the final stages of getting his Summit Chrome extension live, so is figuring out how he gets distribution for the app, which will include a Summit Free Calculator marketplace.

Sponsor

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.

Listen to the Eduflow story here:

• Part 1
• Part 2
• Part 3

Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.

Links

• Matt on Twitter
• Peter on Twitter
• Out of Beta on Twitter
• Summit - Matt's startup
• Reform - Peter's startup
• The Unbundling of Zapier article
• Startup to Last episode

This week, Matt is working like a mad scientist to build a Chrome extension that will essentially eliminate onboarding for new Summit calculator users. Peter is running on low sleep, which is causing a bit of a creative bottleneck for Reform. He wants to keep the momentum after Reform's recent marketing wins and is sponsoring three newsletters in one week.

Sponsor

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.

Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.

Links

• Matt on Twitter
• Peter on Twitter
• Out of Beta on Twitter
• Summit - Matt's startup
• Reform - Peter's startup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.

Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.

This is the third part of three, where we tell the story about Eduflow. It's a crazy startup story with many unexpected twists and turns. If you like startups, you'll enjoy this one.

Links:

• Matt on Twitter
• Peter on Twitter
• Out of Beta on Twitter
• Summit - Matt's startup
• Reform - Peter's startup