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Submit Review"You WILL respect me." Ever heard that gem?
It's pretty much like telling someone they'll love you. At best it's silly, but usually it's just creepy.
Can we share a couple minutes of realtalk about respect and how to AUTHENTICALLY attract more of it?
(...without the creepiness!)
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How can you repair a relationship when it's broken? We'll all face this question in our marriage, at work, amongst our teams, in our business, with our leadership, employees, peers and more. Relationships are at the forefront of our success, fulfillment and happiness, which can make it stressful when they break down.
In this episode of Unbreakable Success I'll share the 3 simple (but not always easy) tips to opening the door to connection, communication and healing any relationship no matter how helpless it feels.
You're not alone. You can do this, and I'm here to help.
Forbes recently released a report by The Workforce Institute with about the number of people who hate their jobs and wouldn't recommend their employers or career to a younger generation.
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You know how much we love sharing amazing people on the Unbreakable Success Podcast, and Few Wu is certainly of the most amazing gems in our history.
Fei is the amazing host of Feisworld Podcast, a documentary filmmaker whose 2019 docuseries features some of the most innovative and creative heroes in America, including Seth Godin, Dorie Clark, Sarah Cooper, Bisila Bokoko, Mick Ebeling, Barry Alexander, Cosmo Buono, Chris Voss, Gasya Akhmetova-Atherton, Andrew Atherton, and Kevin Atherton.
She's also an extraordinary business coach who can teach you how to make money as a podcaster, but today, we're sharing a joint episode between Feisworld and Unbreakable Success.
Fei and I have turned this into what I think you'll agree is one of the best episodes of Unbreakable Success so far.
Discover our journey of entrepreneurship and our perspective on the path to confidence. Thanks to Fei, you'll also discover how I manage to leverage some of the critical skills I learned as a police / SWAT officer, and make them applicable the world of motivational leadership speaking, coaching, business, and entrepreneurship.
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We've all been on both sides of this equation. We've all received and given great advice, we've felt the inspiration, motivation, and potential for progress, but when it was all said and done, not much changed for the better.
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Stefanos Sifandos is an author, international speaker, and mentor who -- if you're willing, will help you transform your idea of relationships, quality of life, and modern masculinity.
In today's episode, our friend Stef shares his very personal story that led him on a journey of transformational growth through neuro-empowerment practices, and an integration of spiritual praxis and western psychology.
Stefanos has brilliantly integrated the best of eastern and western methodologies and philosophies, and used integrative techniques methods to create programs and systems to enhance the quality of your relationships and personal performance.
Add to that, Stef is one of the most easily likable people you'll ever meet. Please make sure you've bookmarked his below website, followed him on social, and reach out to him to learn more from his and thank him for his time today.
I'll say "you're welcome" ahead of time for this episode, because after this episode, there's no doubt you'll be grateful for the introduction to Stef. :)
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Full Transcript:Aaron: 00:00 All right, Stefanos, thank you so much for joining us today. Everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Unbreakable Success. I'm excited to have a conversation with somebody who I'm already beginning to think of as a friend is, you know, I have to apologize to you as you're listening, uh, all of you out there listening and watching because we kind of been chatting away and having some conversation. I'm thinking like we really need to be recording this because we're starting to get deep into the conversation, but I think we can pick it up with no problem anyway, for, for those that don't, you know, Stefanos Sifandos, and we were working on your name before we started. Obviously you've got a lot of accolades behind you. You're an author, you've been doing some speaking internationally. you're a phenomenal coach on, on masculinity and relationships. Can you tell us, just tell us a little bit about you, what your work is like today so people can get a good gauge on the things you're doing if they haven't met you already.
Stef Sifanos: 00:57 Thank you. Thank you for the kind introduction. It's a privilege to be here as well. I'm super excited. So for me, I blend the combination of neuro empowerment practices, a Western psychological frameworks and eastern mysticism in terms of assisting people in cultivating their brilliance, actualizing their potential or shifting from a place of pain that they may find themselves in or that they're attached to. And so my coaching or a massive fan of the word coach, but I don't think I have a better one at this moment, but the guiding, the coaching, whatever it may be, the friendship is, um, it comes from a place of really wanting to serve and serve in the sense of how do we liberate ourselves from the tension or the incessant tension that we at times experience. And so the tools and techniques and how I do that. A, again, a combination of what I've mentioned and also leveraging my own personal experiences and of course the amazing experiences of other people such as yourself, such as people that I come into contact with, family, friends, men, mentors of my own and other leaders of past and present as well.
Stef Sifanos: 02:08 And so I just really, I'm, I'm very excited about it. I'm crazy about sacred union. I'm crazy about human optimization in terms of how do we really develop this amazing grand version of self.
Aaron: 02:21 Yeah. And, and I love, what you're saying there. Especially about the term of whenever I hear the word coach and even though it's funny, it's one of those, we were talking about some quandaries that earlier and you know, from a business perspective when you're describing yourself, you have to put something contains it to describe what it is you do. And I think for, for many of us in the work that you do in the work that I do, coaches use the appropriate word, but I never really feel like it covers everything. You know, it's a little bit difficult. So I appreciate you sharing so much. Give us an idea of, you know, for you, you know, when you think of a, uh, a clients if there, if there is a, if there is that ideal person or, or, or, uh, someone who you meet and right away you're thinking, yeah, this is somebody I'd love to work with. What is that like for you? And obviously I'm not expecting you to have just one type of client you'd like, but know what are some of the things that that triggered you to recognize it somebody or group of somebody who are the right people for you to work with? What's that like for you?
Stef Sifanos: 03:28 I love that question. Willingness is the first thing that comes to mind and to be really honest as well, willingness is something that I look for in my intimate relationships as well. Like how willing are you to celebrate your joys? How willing are you to celebrate us as a, as a couple? How willing are you to traverse your own pain and your difficulty? How willing are you to look at as much of life as possible and really absorb it and then be discerning about what you allow in or what you continue to believe is to be true. For me, that willingness, like whether it be with clients, whether it be my friendships with any person that I'm interacting with, that willingness is so powerful for me and it's what, it's a magnet for me. It's like a, what I'm really, really attracted to and what I'm also looking for when I'm working with him.
Stef Sifanos: 04:13 Because if we don't have that willingness, we're closed. We're essentially, we're coming more from fear than we are from courage and theories. Uh, it's a constricted, restricted, tight, rigid place to come from. And so there's very little wiggle room and you know, speaking a little bit to your, your previous career and, and like it got me thinking because I've done a lot, a lot of work with special forces military and it's, I've learned so much from working with these people like so, so much and some of the rigidity that they have found themselves in like you would think, how do you even shift from that, whether it be physically, emotionally underway, willing, willing, you know, in adverse conditions, whether it be our physical environment, our internal landscape in our own spirituality and sense of self when we're, when we're faced with adverse conditions, it's our willingness that instigates our ability to be creative, to move and shift from that place. So if I'm with someone that has zero willingness, it makes it tough, it makes it really difficult.
Aaron: 05:17 Sure. I think we can all relate to it. I mean, regardless of, you know, for those listening, regardless of where you are, we've all experienced that one way or another, whether it's a relationship like you alluded to earlier or you know, somebody is a manager or CEO or, or a team leader or in coaching relationships, we've all been in those situations where we're looking to inspire or influence change in someone, but when there's pushback it makes a lot more difficult. So I, I, I, I love that. And hopefully of course, if your listener of the show, I'm going to assume that you got some willingness to always be learning something new and, and get some new perspective because that's kind of our jam here. So yeah, yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm glad to have you here with, look, we catch people up because we were, like I mentioned earlier, we were having a conversation earlier about, um, about masculinity and I was really excited to have a discussion about the topic because we've never really touched on it, at least from my recollection in any of the episodes that I've had on a so far on the podcast here.
Aaron: 06:19 So if we can fast forward to, through to masculinity specifically as a topic, I'd love to get your take on that because that's become at least one of your areas, one of your targeted areas that you specialize in when you work with clients in groups of people. So give me idea of, of number one, what kind of sparks that as being something that felt important to you to kind of focus on and dive into and then help others with that process. And why do you think it's. Why do you feel like it's so, such an important conversation? I certainly have my perspective, but you're the man here. This is your show now here. I got to hear from you. Your take on it.
Stef Sifanos: 06:58 Yeah. That's great, Aaron. Thank you. Yeah. So for me, what really, what really sparked to things in retrospect to one singular experience and then an ongoing experience that really sparked me delving deep into the psychology of masculinity and uh, understanding what it means to be a healthy man in contemporary times. And so the first was my ongoing relationship with my father and the, the masculine archetype. The father archetype, it was a very unhealthy relationship. There was a, as I mentioned earlier, there was violence, emotional abuse, and that was really the norm, the aggression, the confrontational approach to problems or to, to live that was the, you know, the agitation of frustration, the fear mongering that was, that was the norm for me. And so when I was in that, that was the norm. But when I was out of that allowed me to reflect and say, is this really what it means to be a man to live with all this tension and fear and essentially bullshit.
Stef Sifanos: 08:02 Like it was just, it was just so much heaviness, heaviness. And so that was one of the catalysts for me to look deeper into my own manhood, my own sense of self as well. Uh, and, and of course, as a, as a, as a side note, I want to, I want to make mention that, you know, the old cliche hurt people hurt people. And so this isn't a blaming or an external shading to my father, you know, for whatever it's worth, he has an amazing heart when he's connected to that. And his ability to give and be present is quite phenomenal. It's unfortunate that he can't really didn't have the tools and the learning and the understanding to tap into that and the support. He didn't feel supported. He's on live. And so the second catalyst for me was a few years ago when I was in an intimate relationship with a woman.
Stef Sifanos: 08:53 We were girlfriend and moved together, um, and I was unfaithful in that relationship and I was commuting in fidelity at rampant rights. And so that all came undone. She found out. And that really that singular event or experience really it caused me to look. It allowed me to look deeper into is this the man I want to be in the world? Like, is this because my whole world was falling apart? It really was. And I couldn't say it. I'll just throw others is part of life because I was accustomed to that burn build that we'd spoken about. So when we we able to build and build and create as men, because men have amazing creative energy as well, just in a different way to women as women have a nurturing creative energy as well, or the feminine does rather. And I can go into masculine feminine, what that actually means in terms of gender dynamics as well as physical gender beyond bonner agenda feel so inclusive and binary gender as well.
Stef Sifanos: 09:49 And so, uh, having that, that creation, but then this habit and familiarity of our better it before it's taken away from me, at least the self control. We have control, greater control and autonomy, but it's a false sense of autonomy and telling the healthy autonomy because we're not really allowing ourselves to appreciate what we're creating. And so we're creating out of insecurity, out of hot the selfishness, out of fear and out of pine. And this is all suppressed and oppressed and within ourselves and unconscious. And so that, that opportunity, that breakup and that process gave me an opportunity to deep dive into me. And so I did that. I let go of my businesses. I went into debt because I stopped, I literally stopped working. Um, I, I just spent hours everyday. I took 15 hours a day on personal growth. Like on my own personal growth.
Stef Sifanos: 10:39 I sought counsel is spiritual healers. God's mentors. I'll put everything I had into that. I spend time in nature. I spent hours meditating, reading, being with a crying, breaking down, releasing like emotive Cathartic releases, uh, uh, you know, I immersed myself in physical activities or Kate, my buddy movie, and at least be able to change my state to flux as often as possible to have some, some level of reprieve Saran myself where I could with good people. I let go of a lot of friends. I completely, I just stripped down and stripped away everything. Or was that an ego self or the spiritual self? I was a rower. I was just an isolated most of the time. Um, and it also served me as well. I needed that. That was my journey into that. That was, that was made. And so the first part of your question was, you know, what was the catalyst for that?
Stef Sifanos: 11:32 And then the second part, I believe, if I remember correctly, it was like how do we begin begin to define masculinity because it is such a complex conversation, it's about culture, it's one about environment, but it's also one about our physicality, how our biology, our neurobiology and physiology, men's physiology influences our behavior as well, coupled with what is the environment or the culture of that time say and, and the culture of the past and how that's permeated into contemporary times. And now we just sit there. And so, you know, scholars will argue like, is it, is it a biology that dictates our masculinity? What is masculinity? Is it purely culture? I believe it's a combination of both and I believe that every man needs to set out to define his own sense of masculinity. But I'm not going to leave people there and say, Hey, go to find your own mascot.
Stef Sifanos: 12:22 I teach this stuff. So like I'll be calling you back. You're not getting off that easy if you know. So there's a couple of things and I'm going to start with two major points. So I've developed a framework which has 12 principles and these principles, they feed into each other and there is a circular model and one is not dependent on the other, however, they are reliant on each other to some degree to, to create a harmony and balance with the expressive self. And so there's two elements of masculinity that I'm really, really excited about and they are inclusivity and sustainability. So let me elaborate. A Nice history has shown us as men generally generally speaking, so this is generalizing to be quite isolating, to be the lone rangers, to be also quite separating and segregating and we can see that in our cultural practices.
Stef Sifanos: 13:15 We can see that in our political systems and we can see that, that it wasn't until the seventies that women just started to get more rights, like some legitimate rights in terms of what they were able to do and be in society. So we've been quite controlling and oppressing as agenda. We haven't been inclusive in our decision making as individuals and as collectives. We've taken a superior ground and then there's sub groups within men as well that, uh, have caste systems of inferior and superior. That's not sustainable, but it's not. It's for, for our level of consciousness and awareness of society and where we're going and how technology is feeding into the rapidness of decision making and how we grow as a society. This is just not going to cut it anymore. This, this sense of exclusivity and short term gains, selfish, selfish, short term gain.
Stef Sifanos: 14:15 And so we begin by looking at ourselves as men and saying, how do we operate in the world? The actions that we take, the thoughts that we have, the belief systems and the decisions that we make and the emotions that we feel. Are they inclusive and are they sustainable? To me, if every man can start from that place, don't even worry about the 12 principles and that, and they have really deep as well. We're going to them. If you, if you lock, but I'm not even worry about them, just start with sustainability and inclusivity. I believe that will change the entire cultural paradigm and landscape of the way we interact at agenda level and it will begin open up the conversation and I'm not saying anything new yet, you know, like this has been going on for thousands of years, hundreds of years. This will open up the conversation for, um, what's the word I want to use?
Stef Sifanos: 15:05 I don't want to, I don't want to say cultural relativity. That's not quite the right term. I want to say it's going to open up a conversation for equity, equity, equity in our society, you know, like that. That to me, that's super powerful. Like, and hey, I get it. I'm coming from A. I'm coming from a place of I'm a, uh, I'm a young male, mid thirties. I'm a male, I'm Caucasian. I'm middle class like I get, I get, there's a complexity here with this, right? And however, we have to look at that. We have to, we, if we, if we want to create equity in our society, we have to take ownership and responsibility, which happens to be the first principle of conscious warrior, the framework ownership and responsibility of who we've been as a collective, who we are and where we're going and just get real, get real with who we are. That's, that's the simplicity of it.
Aaron: 15:57 Yeah. I love it. You and I are on the same page. It's funny because you tapped on the beginning points of talking about I'm taking ownership and responsibility and I have a framework elsewhere for something else. Not touching on that masculinity, but that's the starting point. But I think, you know, with it's pretty universal and it's certainly applicable, uh, in this topic of masculinity as we're discussing it today, that, you know, w we have to take ownership of our decision making and take ownership of the process and take ownership of, of what beliefs we're gonna perpetuate as, as men and, and if, if it doesn't start there, if it doesn't start with, okay, I'm choosing to then, then you're losing game because then you're either, you know, blaming somebody before you are blaming society for others just the way it is.
Aaron: 16:53 And it's when all the power is depleted from the decision making, which makes it kind of interesting for somebody to claim some masculinity or authority if you're passing the book in...
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Discover how to live the ultimate bucket list lifestyle with the "James Bond" of the motivational public speaking world, our new friend Kenyon Salo.
The Bucket List Life is built off the three core principles that have helped Kenyon design a fulfilling life of travel, adventures, meaningful interactions, and achieving his dreams. Kenyon Salo is one of the top trainers, facilitators and keynote speakers in the fields of adventure, leadership, team building, sales, customer service and inspiration/motivation.
One of only five members on the Denver Broncos Thunderstorm Skydive Team, he is seen each week during game season flying into the Denver Broncos Stadium at 60+mph, ending with a soft tip-toe landing on the ten yard line. He brings to the stage over 20+ years of successful audience engagement through humor, awe-inspiring moments, prolific storytelling, and ‘edge-of-the seat’ content.
With over 6000 skydives under his belt and travels that have taken him all around the world, he’s determined to live life to the fullest and help others do the same. Through his passions for adventure, storytelling, and connecting with people, he found a simple process to guide others on a path to what most of us crave – living a more fulfilled life.
His goal through his engagements is to deliver a powerful and heart-touching message on the possibility of how amazing life can be through providing actionable steps that will help any audience, both personally and professionally, embark on a path to achieve anything they desire.
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Kenyon's truly a motivational force of nature with the elements of a James Bond character; carrying confidence, paying close attention to detail, dominating technology, dressing to kill and always striving to connect deeply. He stays cool under pressure while bringing his listeners through an immersive experience of what it means to live a Bucket List Life. James Bond is one of those heroes that most people can believe in, relate to and truly connect with – He’s an ordinary person who uses his gadgets and creativity to do extraordinary things. Just like 007, Kenyon shares effective tools to empower attendees to walk away from the event feeling ready to take on the world. This is achieved while keeping the organizers in mind so that they can rest assured knowing that Kenyon will do everything in his power to make their lives as easy as possible, from the moment contact is initiated all the way through high-fiving after a successful event and beyond. I'm grateful to share this powerful conversation with Kenyon on this episode of the Unbreakable Success podcast.
Full Transcript:Aaron: Everybody, welcome back to another episode of unbreakable success. I'm really stoked to have you here. A Kenyan Salo. Every once in a while you'll hear people that actually give themselves sort of a nickname and you are known as the, the James Bond of public speaking, which I love. And sometimes those things can go wrong. Like when you've self and I'm assuming that you, you came up with the theme or at least you and your team came up with the theme because sometimes it doesn't fit where you agree, but, uh, in your case, Kenyon, uh, the James Bond, public speaking, it's authentic. It kind of speaks to the kind of guy that you are, at least from what I've been able to get to know. Have you the adventurous spirit, the confidence, the having a job in wanting to get it done. And uh, you know, and doing it with some style and possess. And I've seen some of your keynotes, I've seen what you're about. And it's definitely been exciting too to get to know you and talk to you a little bit. And that definitely is great to have you on the show today. So for everybody that doesn't know you, tell me a little bit about, tell all of us a little bit about you and what you're up to these days please.
Kenyon Salo: Well Aaron, thank you so much for having me on the show. It's such a pleasure and it's really great to connect and that's the one thing that I love about this industry and the potential to be able to do podcasts is it's not just about the podcast itself, it's about meeting the people that are behind the podcast. You, you're, you're living the podcast. You're, you're leading the podcast. And then of course all of your audience members, all of your listeners, I celebrate them and I thank all of you guys for being on. And you mentioned earlier about being the James Bond of speaking and and for me it was one of those things where I wanted something that would catch somebody's eye, but again, at the same time being very authentic to who I am, which is that balance that you talk about where it's like it's important that you, you list yourself as something that you can actually back up, follow up, that type of thing.
Kenyon Salo: And so I did some studying on what James Bond is and who he is and, and the, the brand that he personifies. I said, okay, there's a lot of things that I fall into that place where it's like, you know, being onstage, well-dressed, being good with technology, having humor, but at the same time not being infallible, realizing that you can be bumbling, you can make mistakes at the same time and adventurous and succeed in that type of thing. So that was, that was really important to me and I love it and it's far better than a lot of times I see on linkedin where people are like so and so motivational speaker, like you're not going any further in terms of like who is this person? Right? But James Bond speaking, Hey, I'm going to check this out
Aaron: for sure. A brilliant, brilliant from a business aspect. And, and even more importantly, I love it because like you said, it's authentic. Um, if I can share a little bit about, with the audience, about you and I and how we want them connecting. It's funny, a couple months ago, uh, I told you when we talked on the phone the other day, the first time I heard you was, was on another podcast called world speakers, I think, uh, from speaker match.com. And you were doing a training on, on speaking because you, you've been doing this in a relatively short window and you've made some amazing progress. I mean for listening, we're going to hook up the links to his website and things like that. Obviously in the show notes for this episode. But your website is stunning. It's what, it's one of the most stunning sites I've seen visually.
Aaron: You have so much great content, a content, the people that you engage with, your audiences are just obviously like into it, like you have a great persona persona about you. Um, but what, what drew me to you was when you were given a training on speaker match, you were just giving so much great content to help people accomplish what it is they want to accomplish. Like it was so much authentic authenticity and it wasn't like you were trying to just spread a few bread crumbs so you can real somebody into a sales pitch or something like that. You were just really trying to help and it came through very authentically. And that theme kind of carried through when I see you, when I saw you on stage, uh, watching some of your keynote videos, as I told you, I was prepping for one of my keynotes I was doing last week.
Aaron: And I always loved to watch people that I admire along the way. And I think it was watching Mel Robbins and Brendon Burchard or somebody. And then you're, you're a keynote came up and which was cool because I just heard you recently before that. And then funny enough, you and I are connected with, um, Nicole Jansen and I saw that you were all in her pockets and it was, it was sort of a trifecta of, you know, this Guy Kenyan popping up on the radar. And uh, I'm glad that from there we were able to connect and get you on the show today. I definitely would love to have you share with everybody what you call the bucket list life, which is sort of a, one of the overarching themes of what you do. And, and, uh, I'd also love to get to, um, you helping some people out with, with connection.
Aaron: Because what I, what I noticed about you, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, that it's really, it seems to be really important to you that you connect with people authentically when you, when you're doing your speaking and when you're engaging in conversation. And that's something that is essential for not just speakers but entrepreneurs. People in their daily life. If they're on a nine to five people at home with their family. So I'd love to get some of your thoughts on that as we go along today. But, uh, first and foremost, how did this journey start for you? How did you roll into wind up being this public speaker and especially when it has made so much progress from a business standpoint really fast and really authentically? How'd that play out for you?
Kenyon Salo: Well, it's been the one thing that has been throughout my whole life yet I wasn't paying attention to it completely. Yeah. So if I see where I'm at now, definitely we are all in amalgamation of our entire lives. This things that have happened to us, the successes, the failures, the highlights and the lowlights. All those things make us who we are. And for me the common theme that been running through yes, adventure and living that life where I want to experience the word, uh, the world. And that word experience is so very strong because it's deep and core of who I am. You want to experience it. I want to give people experiences. On the other side is the thing that I've been really good at is once I do experiences I want to teach others, I want to help others be able to do that same thing and whether it's back in the day when I was six years old jumping my bike off of a homemade ply wood ramp over a trashcan or then saying, hey, you can do this too, to my neighborhood friends, let me show you how to do it.
Kenyon Salo: And then being able to transfer that so later in life saying, hey, this is what I found about mindset and being able to accomplish goals and when you talk about what I shared on the speaker match call and I appreciate you getting and being able to capture that moment where it's that giving freely because our team, our team decided at the beginning of this year that we would give as much as we could give to speakers, give to event planners, give to podcast, give to anybody we can because we realized when we help others first, everything we desire will come back tenfold. Yeah. So we decided to put that out there. So anything I can do to be able to help others, I just give that information knowing that it will all come back and that's how it is. So that's how I got from the very beginning knowing that I was a speaker trainer, somebody that wants to help and that I was going to tie it in with adventure and stories and things like that and be able to bring that to the stage or bring that to a podcast or a training along the way.
Aaron: Nice. Nice. For those. Don't go know Kenyon has a. What do you over 6,000 skydive jumps now?
Kenyon Salo: Yeah. 6,000 skydives about 400 base jumps. I love to wing suit fly too. So I know a lot of people have seen that on youtube, but it's basically like flying around over houses and trees and it's magical.
Aaron: Yeah, it looks, it looks pretty amazing. It's, it's definitely A. Alright. I'm not going to push and say that's on my bucket list yet, but it is. It is out there. Sort of floating around and we'll see if I grab onto it or not. You're, you're still with the broncos. The Denver Broncos, the jump team, so you may see up. Yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry.
Kenyon Salo: Schedule comes out every April and I've already got it. It's all on my calendar for the fall season and our preseason game started August and yeah, we get to skydive into every single home game that the Broncos have and that is so. Oh Man. 70,000 people scream landing on the field. Uh, it's, it's, it's, it's a pinnacle of my life. It's amazing.
Aaron: Yeah. That's got to be a lot of fun. How long have you been, have you been with the team now?
Kenyon Salo: Seven years. So really a 2011 is when it started for me and they started in 2009 and I, we're the only team that's associated with an NFL team that skydives always into every single game.
Aaron: That's pretty amazing, man. That's got to be so much fun. Now, again, this is one of those things that, one of the reasons I was really hoping to get you on the shows because you have this discrete mixture of living life to the fullest and you certainly by most people standards, you take it to the extreme. You're jumping out of airplanes, flying wing suit, doing base jumps and real and it's authentically you. You're not trying to show off. You just, it's obvious that you love doing this. It to the point where you even, you even bring them on guests, do some keynotes. Sometimes you bring a, you do that every keynote where you have somebody with a thing under the receipt to have them join you on a jump.
Kenyon Salo: Only if it naturally comes up in that moment. That's what it's supposed to be. So sometimes it's just, I say it, sometimes I do it, it just depends. So I've had about a half a dozen people from events decide to come to Colorado or do a skype with me, which it's magical to be able to help them check that off.
Aaron: Yeah, that's pretty cool. So will tell us this because uh, like I touched on earlier, one of the themes of your, of what you do when you're speaking is this thing that you call the bucket list life. Tell us what that's about and how it sort of evolved and became a thing for you.
Kenyon Salo: Yeah. The bucket list life is really what I've been living, but I didn't know it. And then once I started to dig into it and unpack it, it's what I realized that most people are doing anyways. Or the other side of it is if someone feels stuck and they're not doing one of these three things or they're not doing the three things in a continuum and there's no particular order that you have to do them in. But the way that I, I put them out there is irst create more experiences. Second, share more stories and third, live more fulfilled by helping others. When we do those three things, again, not in any particular order, but when we're consistently doing those three things, we feel the most APP happy. We feel the most alive. We feel like we're doing or being what we're supposed to be on the planet and that's, that's the brilliance in and around it. So yeah, I would love to share those three concepts with you. Oh
Aaron: yeah, yeah. Let's, let's talk to him as far as I love to make this relevant for, for you all that are listening right now. I'd love to make this relevant if we start with create more experiences because look, it's 2018. Everybody's hyper. Uh, I want to say hyper busy, but really most people are hyper distracted whether they're building a business or they're, they're running the kids to and from school when they got to get to work and then they got to get to or they got to get to work and work on the side business on top of that. So there's all these things that get us caught up. So, you know, you bring up this point of creating more experiences and a lot of people will immediately push back and say, well, you know, I don't have time to create more experiences. How can I build that into my everyday life? What is your answer the damn, because I think we can. We can sort of try to simplify what it means to create more experiences, but what does that mean to you when you share it with, because obviously you're sharing these speech, the speech with ceos and executives and salespeople. I'm corporate functions so you're not speaking to other adventurous all the time when you're sharing this, so how do you connect it and make it relevant to the people that you're speaking to, including our audience today?
Kenyon Salo: Well, absolutely. I believe that every one of us has a desire to create more experiences. Now creating more experiences is about self. It's about what I want to do, what do I want to see, what do I want to experience? Which is totally cool because we have to fill up our own cup, know in order to give to others, so when we want to create experiences, if we think back to times at any time we created a new experience, whether it's a new movie that we saw, we tried a new restaurant or we said, hey, let's try river rafting or jumping out of a plane. It doesn't matter what the experience is, it is, it doesn't have to be, uh, an extreme experience. It just has to be something new and that something new like say, Hey, I want to learn a new language before I traveled to Spain.
Kenyon Salo: And so you, you're, you, you learned Spanish and you say, okay, that's great. The thing is, new experiences challenged us. New experiences help us grow. They make us feel alive. Why? Well, there are a little scary. And that's when you say, Hey, we're hyper busy. Well that's really a hyper excuse. It's like, oh, I don't have time to do that open. I'm going to binge watch this on Netflix. Like you could have said yes to that experience and gone and done it. You are looking for irs at you that just people that are saying no to stuff because their fears come up for them.
Aaron: Sure, sure. Yeah. That's a, that's a, that is so true. And it's one of the things that, you know, and I brought that point up about being so busy because it's one of the common excuses I get when I'm coaching or if I'm speaking with people and you know, we're bringing up the concept of, of just living more and living authentically and immediately the excuses come up about time. But, uh, I think it was, I'm sure more than one person said this, but we all have, we all make time. We all have time for what were the things we must...
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