The National Security Law Podcast (aka the NSL Podcast) is a weekly review of the latest legal controversies associated with the U.S. government’s national security activities and institutions, featuring Professors Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck of the University of Texas at Austin. They bring different perspectives to these issues, but always in a friendly spirit. The program is fast-paced but detail-rich, and is meant for lawyers and non-lawyers alike. If you’ve been looking for a thoughtful yet enjoyable way to keep up with and better understand these issues, the National Security Law Podcast is the show for you. To join the conversation, follow nslpodcast on Twitter (@nslpodcast).
244 Available Episodes (244 Total)Average duration: 01:04:37
Apr 02, 2024
Episode 245: 100 Days Later…
01:27:21
Hello, is this thing on? Check one, check two…testing, testing. We’re good? Alright alright alright…
It’s been 100 days between shows. Thought maybe the world might be calmer if we waited a bit, but no such luck! We are, however, very glad to be back on the air with a fresh (and rather long!) episode. Tune in for topics including:
Israel & Hamas
Ukraine & Russia
America & the Houthis
702 renewal
TikTok & prospects for the divestment bill prevailing vs a First Amendment challenge
All sorts of Trump litigation
All sorts of Texas border stuff (invasion as a constitutional concept, state-level war powers, preemption, the limits of preemption, etc.)
Plus, why do the Mets already suck? It’s only been four games. Yeesh.
Dec 23, 2023
Episode 244: Not Our 30th Episode of 2023
01:11:56
Barring an unlikely spate of more than a dozen episodes happening over the next week, it sure looks like Steve has won his bet with Bobby, for this marks the 16th episode of 2023. Ouch, that’s not even *close* to the 30-show target! But tune in anyway if you are interested in a thorough overview of what is and is not clear about the Colorado Supreme Court’s decision disqualifying Donald Trump from the ballot under color of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment (that is, on grounds that Trump had engaged in insurrection).
Nov 28, 2023
Episode 243: Boiled Froggy Water Under the Bridge
01:19:00
Two months between episodes? Looks like someone will be buying Steve a dinner at the conclusion of 2023 (barring a pivot to posting new episodes every day).
As for what is on tap in episode 243:
Israel and Gaza: a review of key international law issues
The United States and Iran: a review of key domestic law issues
Trumplandia: checking in on, like, 17 separate cases currently underway
As for frivolity: there are some (inevitable) ramblings about football, but much more frivolous than that is the ad hoc holiday favorites playlist…
Sep 29, 2023
Episode 242: A Rule of Law (and Punctuation) Free Episode!
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Sorry about accidentally taking the whole month off, but we’re back with a classic: tune in for the 9/11 case warm-up, and stick around for 45 minutes of wrangling over the PCLOB Report on Section 702! And, yes, frivolity, always frivolity (wherein we discuss the musical Six, football, and gargantuan mismatches).
Aug 22, 2023
Episode 241: Let’s Barbie!
01:16:21
Tune in for the latest, in which we discuss life as a fall 1L, RICO, removal, Nashiri, Bahlul, Shimari, Barbie, and Silo. And if all those names mean something to you…well, you are among the select few, and this pod is for you!
Aug 08, 2023
Episode 240: Something Got Released
01:04:20
If you are interested in a detailed and careful explanation of the charges at issue in United States v. Trump (the recent indictment of the former president in relation to his effort to overturn the results of the election), the way that the alleged facts related to those offenses, and the relatives strengths and weaknesses of the most likely defenses…well, this is the show for you. Though co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney originally planned to discuss an array of topics in addition to reviewing the latest indictment of the former president, they ended up spending the entire hour on this one.
Jul 11, 2023
Episode 239: We Have Many Tapestries!
01:22:18
Well, it’s been about a month, so it’s good we are finally back with a fresh episode! Tune in as hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney kick the tires on:
The New York Times story (per Charlie Savage) on the Biden Administration’s October ’22 revised policy guidance on kill/capture operations outside areas of active hostilities
Touching base with the will-it-ever-end (no) Nashiri litigation
The National Guard, federal court-martial jurisdiction for members not in federal service, and the Fifth Circuit
Missouri v. Biden: a stunning injunction (and 155-page underlying memo) limiting the ability of a slew of federal government leaders to work with social media platforms on content moderation
And, of course, no shortage of frivolity! If you are not down with the frivolity, you definitely want to skip the first six minutes. Well, maybe a lot more than that… :)
Jun 12, 2023
Episode 238: The World Wonders
00:58:56
Today’s episode focuses on the indictment in United States v. Donald Trump and Waltine Nauta, S.D. Fla. (23-80101-CR). Co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney walk you through the factual allegations, the crimes charged, the areas where tricky evidence questions might arise, the process for selecting the presiding judge, and the prospects for an array of things including: recusal; a Presidential Records Act defense; a I-declassified-this-stuff defense; a pre-verdict Rule 29 motion for judgment of acquittal; and a trial occurring around the time of the election. Buckle up and tune in!
Apr 25, 2023
Episode 237: Are You Not Detained???
01:19:09
And we’re back, with co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney breaking down the latest national security law news along with much else. This week the spotlight is on the D.C. Circuit’s en banc decision in al Hela, which grapples with the applicability of the Fifth Amendment Due Process Clause (in both its procedural and substantive aspects) to GTMO detainees. We’ve also got an update on the Badilla contractor immunity case (in which Steve plays a role as counsel to the plaintiffs), some Shadow Docket developments, and notes on the prosecutorial aspects of Cold War II.
Apr 05, 2023
Episode 236: Damn the Torpedoes!
00:50:57
Good morning! Episode 236 covers:
The Trump Indictment
The Biden Administration's Executive Order on Abusive Commercial Spyware
A CENTCOM strike against an IS target in Syria
The future of private prosecutors?
Apr 02 | 01:27:21
Episode 245: 100 Days Later…
Dec 23 | 01:11:56
Episode 244: Not Our 30th Episode of 2023
Nov 28 | 01:19:00
Episode 243: Boiled Froggy Water Under the Bridge
Sep 29 | Unknown
Episode 242: A Rule of Law (and Punctuation) Free Episode!
Aug 22 | 01:16:21
Episode 241: Let’s Barbie!
Aug 08 | 01:04:20
Episode 240: Something Got Released
Jul 11 | 01:22:18
Episode 239: We Have Many Tapestries!
Jun 12 | 00:58:56
Episode 238: The World Wonders
Apr 25 | 01:19:09
Episode 237: Are You Not Detained???
Apr 05 | 00:50:57
Episode 236: Damn the Torpedoes!
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