Today we're sharing an episode from our friends at Self Evident. They tell Asian America’s stories to go beyond being seen, honoring the everyday lives of Asian American people — and pass the mic for everyone to represent their whole self.

Before Me

Before Me is a five-part documentary produced by Self Evident about journalist Lisa Phu chronicling her mother’s journey from Cambodia to America over the course of decades.

For most of her life, Lisa told a story about how her mom and family first came to the United States. Some of it was right, some of it was wrong; none of it was actually ever told to her by the people who had lived it.

After Lisa gave birth to her first child, her mom flew across the country to care for them both. And during that visit, she finally shared the real story with Lisa. About growing up in Cambodia, fleeing genocide by the Khmer Rouge, surviving as a gold dealer in Vietnam, building a home in America while navigating the fallout and traumas of war… and carrying the future of her children throughout the journey.

You can listen to Before Me wherever you listen to podcasts.

Credits

• Created, written, and produced by Lisa Phu
• Edited by Julia Shu
• Fact checking by Harsha Nahata and Tiffany Bui
• Sound design by James Boo
• Additional support from Cathy Erway
• Original theme music by Avery Stewart
• Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions
• Audio engineering by Dave Waldron and Timothy Lou Ly
• Cover art and show name created by Christine Carpenter
• Audience engagement by Rekha Radhakrishnan
• Thanks to Ben Kiernan for participating in the research and reporting process
• Huge thanks and gratitude to Lan Phu
• “Before Me” is a Self Evident Media production. The show’s Executive Producers are James Boo, Lisa Phu, and Ken Ikeda.
• This project is also supported in part by the Juneau Arts & Humanities Council and the City and Borough of Juneau.
• Thanks to the Alderworks Alaska Writers & Artists Retreat for the residency they provided for this project.

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In the last episode of the season, we are focused on building the future with one of the wisest people of our time, adrienne maree brown. If grief is transformative, what are we creating in its wake? This conversation is about emerging from our collective grief and about creating our future together.  It’s about our interconnectedness and what it means to live a good life in community with each other, knowing grief is woven into our lives just as joy is. We love adrienne’s vision and clarity and hopefulness and honesty. We love adrienne, our memelord, and invite you to take in the wisdom, abundance, and lessons with us. 

More about adrienne maree brown:

adrienne maree brown grows healing ideas in public through her multi-genre writing, her music and her podcasts. Informed by 25 years of movement facilitation, somatics, Octavia E Butler scholarship and her work as a doula, adrienne has nurtured Emergent Strategy, Pleasure Activism, Radical Imagination and Transformative Justice as ideas and practices for transformation. She is the author/editor of strategy-series.html">seven published texts and the founder of the Emergent Strategy Ideation Institute, where she is now the writer-in-residence. 

More about adrienne maree brown and her work here and find her on Twitter at @adriennemaree and on Instagram at @adriennemareebrown.

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Grief, Collected is a production of The Mash-Up Americans. Executive produced by Amy S. Choi and Rebecca Lehrer. Senior editor and producer is Sara Pellegrini. Development Producer is Dupe Oyebolu. Production manager Shelby Sandlin. Original music composed by The Brothers Tang. Sound design support by Pedro Rafael Rosado. Website design by Rebecca Parks Fernandez. Grief, Collected was supported in part by a grant from The Pop Culture Collaborative. 

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Welcome to the fourth meditation of our Grief, Collected series, which come out every Friday.

Today is a literary meditation with the esteemed author Alexander Chee. Alexander is the bestselling author of Edinburgh and The Queen of the Night, and a beautiful essayist making meaning of the world around us and helping us imagine new ones. In today’s episode he is reading his 2018 essay, “Why Grieve Is The Word Of The Year,” which walks us through all of our many griefs, and how we can find ourselves in them.

More about Alexander Chee and his work here and find him on Twitter at @alexanderchee and on Instagram at @cheemobile.

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More about Alexander Chee - 

Alexander Chee is the bestselling author of the novels Edinburgh and The Queen of the Night, and the essay collection How To Write An Autobiographical Novel, all from Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. A contributing editor at The New Republic, and an editor at large at VQR, his essays and stories have appeared in The New York Times Magazine, T Magazine, The Sewaneee Review, and the 2016 and 2019 Best American Essays.

He is a 2021 United States Artists Fellow, a 2021 Guggenheim Fellow in Nonfiction, and the recipient of a Whiting Award, a NEA Fellowship, an MCCA Fellowship, the Randy Shilts Prize in gay nonfiction, the Paul Engle Prize, the Lambda Editor’s Choice Prize, and residency fellowships from the MacDowell Colony, the VCCA, Leidig House, Civitella Ranieri and Amtrak.

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Collective grief! What does it mean to grieve as a community? As a country? We’re thinking about what it means to face our losses and our grief head on — together — in order to repair our society. What does it mean to lose a future that we might have imagined? Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg joins us to talk about some of the roots of our grief culture here in America, and with that knowledge, what collective grief and healing can look like in our communities. Part of that work includes looking at how societies globally have done this - and what we can learn from them. 

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You can find Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg on Twitter @TheRaDR and on Instagram @RabbiDanyaRuttenberg or at DanyaRuttenberg.net 

More About Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg

Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg is an award-winning author and writer who serves as Scholar in Residence at the National Council of Jewish Women (NCJW).  She was named by Newsweek as a “rabbi to watch,”  as a “faith leader to watch” by the Center for American Progress, has been a Washington Post Sunday crossword clue (83 Down). Her newest book, On Repentance and Repair: Making Amends in an Unapologetic World has been hailed by Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley as ““A must read for anyone navigating the work of justice and healing.” and by the author Rebecca Solnit as “brilliant.” She has written for The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Atlantic, Time, and many other publications. Her seven other books include Nurture the Wow: Finding Spirituality in the Frustration, Boredom, Tears, Poop, Desperation, Wonder, and Radical Amazement of Parenting, which was a National Jewish Book Award finalist, and Surprised By God: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Religion, nominated for the Sami Rohr Prize for Jewish literature; The Passionate Torah: Sex and Judaism;  Yentl’s Revenge: The Next Wave of Jewish Feminism, and, with Rabbi Elliot Dorff, three books on Jewish ethics. 

Credits 

Grief, Collected is a production of The Mash-Up Americans. Executive produced by Amy S. Choi and Rebecca Lehrer. Senior editor and producer is Sara Pellegrini. Development Producer is Dupe Oyebolu. Production manager Shelby Sandlin. Original music composed by The Brothers Tang. Sound design support by Pedro Rafael Rosado. Website design by Rebecca Parks Fernandez. Grief, Collected was supported in part by a grant from The Pop Culture Collaborative.

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For today’s meditation: grab a pencil and paper! The bestselling illustrator and graphic journalist Wendy MacNaughton is the founder and host of Draw Together. She will lead us through a drawing exercise “Chill Out Drawing for Stressed Out Times.” Draw Together is a participatory drawing podcast and interactive art class focused on imagination and community. Although Wendy’s show is ostensibly for kids, we have found it touches the inner kid in all of us. 

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More about Wendy MacNaughton:

Wendy MacNaughton is an illustrator and graphic journalist with a background in social work (MSW). She combines the practice of deep looking, listening and drawing to create stories of often overlooked people, places and things.

As a visual columnist for The New York Times and California Sunday Magazine, Wendy MacNaughton drew stories everywhere from high school cafeterias to Guantanamo Bay. She has illustrated, authored and edited eleven books, including the #1 New York Times bestseller Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat by Samin Nosrat, The Gutsy Girl by Caroline Paul and her own book, Meanwhile in San Francisco: The City in Its Own Word.

She is the creator and host of DrawTogether, an participatory drawing show for kids that uses art to bolster social-emotional skills, self-confidence and connection. She is also the co-founder of the Women Who Draw with Julia Rothman, an advocacy database launched in 2016 to increase visibility and opportunities for underrepresented artists, illustrators and cartoonists. She lives with her wife in San Francisco, but you can often find her on the road in her mobile drawing studio built inside the back of a Honda Element. You can find Wendy MacNaughton @wendymac and Draw Together DrawTogether.Studio

Credits for the Draw Together Podcast: 

Editor: Amy Standen, Drawing music: Chris Colin, Theme song: Thao Nguyen

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You know how when you are grieving you might feel clumsy? Or perhaps your heart literally hurts - not metaphorically? These are some of the many physical manifestations of grief that have been scientifically observed - and humanly felt. And not just humanly!!! Animals grieve!  Wait until you learn about crow funerals! Today we’re talking to Dr. Dorothy Holinger, psychologist and author of The Anatomy of Grief.  This validating conversation is an exploration of the science and spirituality of grief, how deeply personal and individualistic the grief experience is and how integral it is to all living beings. 

More about Dorothy Holinger 

Dorothy P. Holinger, Ph.D., is a Staff Psychologist in the Department of Neurology at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, a Harvard hospital in Boston, Massachusetts. She was a long-time Instructor in Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. A graduate of Brown University with a degree in English, she earned her doctorate in psychology from the University of Michigan. Dr. Holinger is a member of the American Psychological Association, and Sigma Xi (The Scientific Research Society) and is a fellow in the Association for Psychological Science. She has studied the human brain for over thirty years, and in her book, The Anatomy of Grief (2022/2020, Yale University Press), she has drawn from brain science, psychology, paleontology and literature to describe what happens to the brain, heart and body of the bereaved. She has her own psychotherapy practice, and lives in Brookline, Massachusetts with her husband. You can connect with Dr. Holinger  here. 

You can find books mentioned in this episode here.

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Credits:

Grief, Collected is a production of The Mash-Up Americans. Executive produced by Amy S. Choi and Rebecca Lehrer. Senior editor and producer is Sara Pellegrini. Development Producer is Dupe Oyebolu. Production manager Shelby Sandlin. Original music composed by The Brothers Tang. Sound design support by Pedro Rafael Rosado. Website design by VOKSEE. Grief, Collected was supported in part by a grant from The Pop Culture Collaborative. 

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Welcome to the second meditation of our Grief, Collected series, which come out every Friday.

Today is a breathing meditation with Linda Thai. Linda is a therapist and leads meditations as part of her somatic healing practice. She will take us on a 10 minute meditation to explore our relationship to our ancestors through release and healing. And for those us that get antsy about the idea of meditating for 10 minutes - we get it! Take a walk and see how it feels.

Linda Thai is also featured in Episode 3 of the podcast.

More about Linda Thai and her work thai.com/">here. 

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More about Linda Thai - 

Linda is a trauma therapist and educator who specializes in brain and body based modalities for addressing complex developmental trauma. She is highly sought after for her trainings in trauma-informed care, compassion fatigue resilience, and vicarious trauma recovery skills for human services professionals. As an adjunct faculty member in the Social Work Department at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, Linda's decolonized approach to education and engaging teaching style makes her well-loved with students. She assists internationally renowned psychiatrist and trauma expert, Dr. Bessel van der Kolk, with his private small group psychotherapy workshops aimed at healing attachment trauma. She has a Master of Social Work with an emphasis on the neurobiology of attachment and trauma.

Grief, Collected is a production of The Mash-Up Americans. Executive produced by Amy S. Choi and Rebecca Lehrer. Senior editor and producer is Sara Pellegrini. Development Producer is Dupe Oyebolu. Production manager Shelby Sandlin. Original music composed by The Brothers Tang. Sound design support by Pedro Rafael Rosado. Website design by VOKSEE. Grief, Collected was supported in part by a grant from The Pop Culture Collaborative. 

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America! The land of opportunity! And also, for so many Mash-Ups, the ambiguous loss of immigration and uprooting a life and a history comes with a complex web of emotions. Today we’re talking to the trauma therapist and educator Linda Thai about ancestral grief, and how unmetabolized grief, particularly in Mash-Up families, is passed down through generations. We dive into how important understanding historical context is for grief and healing. There are many Mash-Up  revelations in this episode!!!! We’re asking: what happens to a family structure if we don’t grieve? 

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About Linda Thai:

Linda Thai is a trauma therapist and educator who specializes in brain and body based modalities for addressing complex developmental trauma. She is highly sought after for her trainings in trauma-informed care, compassion fatigue resilience, and vicarious trauma recovery skills for human services professionals. As an adjunct faculty member in the Social Work Department at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, Linda's decolonized approach to education and engaging teaching style makes her well-loved with students. She assists internationally renowned psychiatrist and trauma expert, Dr. Bessel van der Kolk, with his private small group psychotherapy workshops aimed at healing attachment trauma. She has a Master of Social Work with an emphasis on the neurobiology of attachment and trauma.

More about Linda Thai and her work thai.com/">here. 

Grief, Collected is a production of The Mash-Up Americans. Executive produced by Amy S. Choi and Rebecca Lehrer. Senior editor and producer is Sara Pellegrini. Development Producer is Dupe Oyebolu. Production manager Shelby Sandlin. Original music composed by The Brothers Tang. Sound design support by Pedro Rafael Rosado. Website design by VOKSEE. Grief, Collected was supported in part by a grant from The Pop Culture Collaborative.

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Welcome to the first meditation of our Grief Collected series, which come out every Friday. Today we have a series of 4 songs on grief from Daniela Gesundheit and Snowblink. A lot of Daniela’s music engages with grief, as she weaves together stories from  her personal experience and her Jewish traditions. These meditative episodes are an invitation to get out of our heads and into our bodies.

This is music by Daniela Gesundheit and Snowblink.

Playlist - 

None - written by Daniela Gesundheit. Performed by Snowblink. Produced by Daniela Gesundheit, Dan Goldman, and Caley Monahon-Ward. Mixed by Thom Monahan. Courtesy of Fire Records UK. 

Second Sight - written by Daniela Gesundheit and Dan Goldman. Performed by Snowblink. Produced by Daniela Gesundheit, Dan Goldman, and Robbie Lackritz. Courtesy of Outside Music. 

Opposite the Seraphim - written by Daniela Gesundheit and Sarah Pagé. Performed by Sarah Pagé. Produced by Daniela Gesundheit. Mixed by Steve Kaye. Courtesy of Idée Fixe. 

Wild Here - written by Daniela Gesundheit. Performed by Snowblink. Produced by Daniela Gesundheit, Dan Goldman, and Robbie Lackritz. Courtesy of Outside Music. 

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More about Daniela -

Daniela Gesundheit is a vocalist, composer, poet, and cantor interested in long-surviving musical traditions that explore and foster group identity. As Snowblink Gesundheit writes non-denominational devotional pop music and has released three critically acclaimed albums. Her latest project is Alphabet of Wrongdoing, an album of Jewish prayers and blessings encircling themes of reckoning and forgiveness reimagined for secular audiences and secular spaces. She lives in Los Angeles and haunts Toronto with her husband and fraternal twin babies. You can find her @DanielaSarah

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We’ve been looking around these past couple years, wondering what grief is in America. Today we start at the beginning and we have some BIG QUESTIONS. What is grief? What is the particularly American approach to grief and grieving — or not grieving as it were? Will we be okay?! We are joined by two of the world’s leading grief experts. George Bonanno and Natalia Skritskaya are psychologists who are researchers on grief, trauma, and loss to define grief and loss and their many manifestations. We go deep on the incredible resilience of human beings, the throughlines of grief experiences and the impact of NOT addressing it, particularly in a post-Covid age — and how the truth about grief may look completely different from what we think it to be. 

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About The Guests

Dr. George Bonanno is a Professor of Clinical Psychology and Chair of the Department of Counseling and Clinical Psychology at Columbia University's Teachers College. He is the head of the Loss, Trauma, and Emotion Lab at Columbia University. For the past 25 years, he has pioneered research in the nature of resilience in contexts of loss and trauma. His books include “The End of Trauma: How the new science of resilience is changing how we think about PTSD. And the The Other Side of Sadness”: What the New Science of Bereavement Tells Us About Life After Loss. You can find him on Twitter @giorgiobee. 

Dr. Natalia Skritskaya is a researcher at the Center for Complicated Grief, Columbia University and clinical psychologist in private practice. Her background is in cognitive-behavioral therapy for anxiety disorders with an interest in mind-body connection. For the past decade Dr. Skritskaya has been helping people struggling with difficult losses and trained clinicians in an evidence-based prolonged grief therapy. Her research is focused on assessment of typical bereavement-related thoughts and understanding their role in prolonged grief.You can find more about her work here. 

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We’re back!!! Welcome to a new series about grieving and life from The Mash-Up Americans. Grief, Collected is where we explore how grief moves through our bodies, our families, and our communities — and why we need to feel it all in order to transform our future. 

Launching November 15 — with new episodes every Tuesday and new meditations every Friday. 

Grief, like joy, is one of our human conditions. Yet it is the one we, as Americans, are the least willing to confront, even as it becomes more and more essential to do so. We prize pushing forward, but maybe it’s time to pause. As we emerge from the catastrophic losses of the pandemic — and wrestle with the regular traumas of modern life — how do we heal ourselves to plant seeds for our future? What wisdom can we call upon to create hope for a more introspective, joyful, and honest culture? 

We’re talking to leading psychologists, researchers, musicians, and authors, including George Bonnano, Natalia Skritskaya, Daniela Gesundheit, Alexander Chee, Linda Thai, Dorothy Holinger, Wendy Macnaughton, Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg, and adrienne maree brown.  

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Credits:

Grief, Collected is a production of The Mash-Up Americans. Executive produced by Amy S. Choi and Rebecca Lehrer. Senior editor and producer is Sara Pellegrini. Development Producer is Dupe Oyebolu. Production manager Shelby Sandlin. Original music composed by The Brothers Tang. Sound design support by Pedro Rafael Rosado. Website design by Voksee. Grief, Collected was supported in part by a grant from The Pop Culture Collaborative.

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We're baaccccckkkkk!!!! We have so much good stuff coming to you this year - about life and grief and joy. To start - The Mash-Up Americans has produced it's first fiction show Love & Noraebang! It's the most happy, joyful, fun Mash-Up love story starring Randall Park, Justin H. Min and Francia Raisa. Our tagline: The only thing better than karaoke is finding The One.

Produced by The Mash-Up Americans and Sonoro, Love & Noraebang is the first romcom, k-drama, telenovela podcast series that has it all: business enemies thwarting love, long distance drama, unrequited love, a match-making best friend, and last but not least, a surprisingly talkative City of Dreams.

Episode 1 is right here in the feed, and the the whole show is available now wherever you listen to podcasts.

Episode 1: Gonna Sing You My Love Song

Jaesun Choi, heir to a Korean chaebol, celebrates a huge work win with his cousin Chloe and his besties at Don Dago’s, his favorite Mexican restaurant in LA, where he fancies the cocktails, the mole, AND the owner, the gorgeous and brilliant Ana Campos. Jaesun finally gets the guts to ask Ana out to noraebang — an invitation she’s been waiting months for — and the music and the mics are just the thing to kickstart their romance. But, not everybody is happy about it. 

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About Love & Noraebang

Ana, a Mexican American entrepreneur, and Jaesun, an heir to a Korean chaebol, unexpectedly fall in love in modern day LA. After months of innocent flirting and one passionate karaoke session later, Ana finds out that Jaesun must return to Korea for his two-year military service. As their time together is running out, they try to make the best out of it. Rooted for by their families, thwarted by mysterious threats to their businesses, separated by a whole ocean and a 16 hour time difference, they’re figuring out if they can make it work. Will their love survive the long wait — and everything else?

Credits:

Los Angeles / Randall Park

Ana / Francia Raisa

Federica / Ana Gonzalez Bello

Mark / Rafael Torres

Chloe / Julia Cho

Kunwoo / Steve Lim

Jaesun / Justin H Min

Sookmin / June Yoon

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As a special treat today, we're sharing an episode from Sunstorm, a brand new podcast that we produce with our sisters Ai-jen Poo, Alicia Garza and the National Domestic Workers Alliance. Ai-jen and Alicia are two of the leading activists in America (and amazing Mash-Ups) and the show is all about how women help each other stay joyful and powerful amidst the chaos of life today.

In this very first episode of Sunstorm, Astrologer Chani Nicholas joins Alicia and Ai-jen to discuss the intersection of social justice and the stars. They discuss her New York Times-bestselling book, “You Were Born For This,” and what the planets say about this year. She also clarifies the aspects of astrology that people often misunderstand (hint: the stars and planets can guide you, but they can’t do the work for you). Plus: Overcoming self-doubt, finding your true purpose, guilty fashion pleasures, and Chani’s passion for pie.

Sunstorm is available wherever you listen to podcasts! Go subscribe to Sunstorm now to get new episodes every Tuesday!

Live Show from Chicago! We were with a sold out crowd in Chicago talking food and laughing our faces off, as a part of WBEZ's Podcast Passport Series. You'll hear our convo with two guest chefs - Jennifer Kim and Diana Davila - for an interview about using their midwestern roots to explore the foods their parents shared with them. You'll also hear a fantastic set from the hilarious comic Alex Kumin on everything from body hair to the complexities of the American healthcare system.

Thanks to WBEZ's Podcast Passport Series and Sleeping Village for making this night happen.

Poet and screenwriter Fatimah Asghar is talking to us about why "orphan" is the identifier she relates to the most, and why her idea of home isn't a physical place. Fatimah is having a moment right now….within the past year, the web series that she co-created Brown Girls got picked up by HBO, she released a collection of poetry, and she was chosen as one of Forbes 30 under 30 on their Hollywood and Entertainment list.

She also shares her 3 rules of success and has really got us thinking about how we define success. If you don't know Fatimah, now you now, and you will definitely be hearing more from her in the future.

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“I really believe that care and caregiving can save the soul of the country. Everybody has people that they care about. It totally connects us in this very deep, emotional way.” We agree with Ai-Jen! We had SO MUCH FUN in this conversation.

The paid work of caregiving - which is mostly done by mashy women - makes our economy and world move. Ai-Jen Poo is the head of the National Domestic Workers Alliance and one of the organizers of Supermajority. She’s so mashy she even has a hyphen in her name!

Ai-Jen tells us what it was like growing up between Taiwan and the US, and how her relationship with her grandparents meant that she never was ashamed of her mashiness. There is a direct line between her mash-up origin story and how she ended up working with domestic workers.

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“Talking about sex won’t make you pregnant, talking about death won’t make you dead.”

We are talking about death on this episode and it is a party! We are going to explore life, love, and family through the lens of death with our incredible guest Alua Arthur. Alua is a Ghanifornian Mash-Up and a death doula, which means that she works with individuals and families to help them through the process of death.

We chat with Alua about everything from what to do with your loved one’s magazine subscription after they are gone to what an advanced care directive is and why we need one. She tells us about the cultural differences surrounding death and about her personal journey from being a child missionary to working as a lawyer to now working within the death industry.

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Aline Brosh McKenna is a Hollywood triple threat; she’s a showrunner, director, and writer and she does them all really really well. She has worked in this business for more than two decades but her mission has remained the same: to center women’s stories around something other than a man. We talk about Cher, body hair, bacterial vaginosis, and so much more. Get ready!

She’s the writer of your favorite rom coms, from 27 Dresses to The Devil Wears Prada to I Don’t Know How She Does It. Most recently she has been busy showrunning and writing Crazy Ex-Girlfriend which is now in its fourth and final season.

Aline tells us what it was like growing up in the 70’s in very white suburban New Jersey with Jewish immigrant parents, and why she relates more to people with immigrant parents than other Jewish people. She tells us about the differences between being a boss in her 20’s and being a boss in her 40’s, and why she wants to write more roles for women over 50.

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This episode is all about money. How we make it, spend it, save it, and value it. Wendy De La Rosa is our guest and she has a lot to say about all of this. Not how we are supposed to manage our money, but how we actually do it. Wendy is a Dominican-born and Bronx-raised Mash-Up who studies consumer behavior and is a founder of the Common Cents Lab, which aims to teach fintech companies how real people use money.

Wendy talks to us about her life before becoming an academic, living as a brown person in Silicon Valley, and her relationship to her Afro-Latinx identity in the US versus the Dominican Republic. She also gives us some really good advice on how to save more money.*

*Hint: It includes deleting that food ordering app from your phone*

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We're live in Chicago on March 29! Food Makes Us Happy ( Other Stories): Fabulous conversations with chefs Diana Davila of Mi Tocaya Antojería and Jennifer Kim of Passerotto and a set from comedian Alex Kumin. Tickets: wbez.org/events

New Season! We’re kicking off Mash Ups to Know with the President and CEO of Planned Parenthood, Dr. Leana Wen! A long time leader and advocate in public health, Dr. Wen’s mission to depoliticize healthcare at the forefront of everything she does. 

We talk with her about what it was like to immigrate here from Shanghai at such a young age, how becoming a mother changed the way that she approaches healthcare, and why her mother's bout with cancer led to her passion for patient advocacy.

The Mash-Up Americans is produced by The Mash-Up Americans Creative Studio. Producer is Kara Hart and Executive Producers Amy S. Choi and Rebecca Lehrer

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New season! We're making the culture, ya heard? On each episode, we’ll bring you a conversation with one incredible Mash-Up who is making waves at the cutting edge of their field. We're talking health, money, death, work, pop culture, and so much more.

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It's the final week of Mash-Ups to Know—for now!—and we are thrilled to bring you our beloved boss bitch, Lily Percy. Also known as Liliana Maria Percy Ruiz, and that's a whole thing that we get into. First though, she is the Executive Producer of On Being Studios—home of the wisest woman we know, Krista Tippett—and the host of the new and totally amazing podcast, This Movie Changed Me. We talk growing up a religious immigrant, the importance of language, and why Sleepless in Seattle is the movie that changed Lily. Stick around!

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For our fourth installment of Mash-Ups to Know, we bring you comedy writer and producer Rachna Fruchbom. She knows that her mashiness is her superpower—and she is not afraid to use it. From her badass career change after the birth of her first kid and writing for Parks & Rec and Fresh Off the Boat, to her dream of creating America's new favorite sitcom—starring an Indian American woman!—she brings her full self to her work. Amy and Rebecca talk with Rachna about work, motherhood, and following your "aliveness" to unchartered and exciting new places.

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Bethany Yellowtail—fashion designer, business owner, and general badass—is a Mash-Up to Know. She is the owner and designer of B.YELLOWTAIL, a fashion line, and the leader of B.YELLOWTAIL COLLECTIVE, a platform for the work of Native artisans of different nations. Rebecca and Amy try not to fan girl too hard about her beautiful clothes and amazing work, and they get to the heart of why dating as an Indigenous woman in LA is just as challenging as it sounds.

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The Mash-Up Americans are back with another Mash-Up to Know—journalist Frank Shyong of the LA Times. He covers the San Gabriel Valley and the self-described Asian Beat, knows his way around the delis and tempura houses of LA, and has his finger on the pulse. He sat down with Amy and Rebecca just after Crazy Rich Asians came out in theaters, and we talked representation, growing up Asian in the South, and worrying about your parents. And lots and lots of food.

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We're coming your way with Mash-Ups to Know! Up first is comedian and all-around badass Marcella Arguello. She is a Salvadoran Lebanese Nicaraguan American who is also the host of Women Crush Wednesdays, one of the funniest nights of comedy in LA—or anywhere, for our money. Marcella talks to Amy and Rebecca about her family's American tale, the shades of Latinx identity, the importance of finding mentors, loving the glow-up of her BFF Nico Santos, (one of the stars of everyone's favorite movie rn) and why inspiring women is what it's all about for her. And we get her recipe for curtido! Yummm.....

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It's a fact: Mash-Ups are the sexiest people in all the land. Though like everything else, sex and dating can be a little more complicated for Mash-Ups. Just ask international sex expert Esther Perel, Nancy Podcast host Tobin Low, and rapper and breakout star of Crazy Rich Asians and Oceans 8 Awkwafina (oh, and her grandma, Mrs. Lum). We did! And we're sharing their wisdom with you today.

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Mash-Up Wisdom is a short series of episodes featuring wisdom from our Mash-Up heroes.

Have you read the news lately? Amy and Rebecca have been taking it pretty hard and needed a therapy session with you guys to find some HOPE. Today we’re reflecting on Mash-Up Wisdom—the gems of knowledge dropped by our guests here on The Mash-Up Americans—and how we are using them to keep us strong and HOPEFUL. This episode features brilliance from Michael Twitty, John Maeda, and Randall Park. They're reminding us to focus on our ancestors, celebrate our mashiness and follow our joy. Best therapy ever.

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It's been awhile, but we're baaack! We're diving into all the feelings and lots of wisdom about traveling the globe—and why you might catch us without a driver's license or a library card, but you'd never catch us without a valid passport. Amy and Rebecca get into it with the incomparable Aminatou Sow, of Call Your Girlfriend and On She Goes, and get a fierce dose of wisdom to share with the fam.

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This week on The Mash-Up Americans: Whether you are a parent, think you might want to be, or just want the best for the next generation, here are the questions that tear at us as we do our best to raise our many-hyphened kids. After our conversation last month on Raising Generation Mash-Up, you all sent us so many thoughtful, piercing questions on mash-up parenting. Today we're diving in. Joining Amy and Rebecca on the podcast to answer your questions is Matt Sayles, a celebrated photographer, an Angeleno, a man who sees beauty in all people, and a father to two sons, beautiful Mash-ups of their Black dad and Salvadoran-Guatemalan-American mom. You are not alone.

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We're re-sharing our episode with the fantastic author, chef, historian, and mensch Michael Twitty about bubbemeises. Call them old wives tales, call them folk wisdom, call them what you will, we're not ignoring them anytime soon. We'll hear from: a bevy of past guests on their bubbemeise; The Angry Asian Man, Phil Yu, and his lovely wife, Joanna Lee, about how honoring the traditions of their ancestors made their first year of parenthood easier to endure, and more meaningful, too; and finally, Michael Twitty himself on why we are our ancestors best fantasy and to remember that we own the source code. Get all the wisdom here, fam!

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It's that time of year. Time for New Year's resolutions (or not), forgiveness, and moving ahead. 2017 has been a reckoning for all of us — an examination of who and what we fight for, and why. We've looked deeply at ourselves and sat in the uncomfortable acknowledgement that maybe we could have done more. And as we push the world to change, to do better and be better, we're also pushing ourselves. But what's the best way to do that? Joining Amy and Rebecca on the podcast today is Kristen Meinzer, host of the podcast By The Book. She's a rad woman, a Korean-American Mash-Up, and an advice and self-help expert. She helps us tackle New Year's resolutions and how best to make space for change in our own lives. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Welcome to the third and final installation of our Mash-Up journey: raising our kids. In some ways, we've been working on this episode for the entire lifespan of The Mash-Up Americans. Where do we come from? Where are we going? How do we do raise our children with love, and care, and with a deep love of their mashiness?

Amy and Rebecca are joined today by Rumaan Alam, first-generation Bengali American, novelist and essayist on parenting in transracial adoptions; and Christine Gross-Loh, first gen Korean American, mother of four Korean American Jews, and expert on parenting practices around the world, to try and tackle the biggest questions of all. Oh, and a seven-year old Mash-Up guest star! (Hint: He's our producer's very thoughtful kid.)

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Part 2 of our Mash-Up journey: Finding Our People. Is it possible to say enough about how important it is to find your tribe? To be with people who you feel truly understand you? On this episode, Amy and Rebecca open up a little window into their lives and introduce you, dear listener, to their people. Rebecca talks with her sister-from-another-mister, Daniela Gesundheit, a Latin Jew, musician, one half of the group Snowblink; and Amy sits down with two of her three soulmates: Alix Steel, a white girl from the Upper West Side and Amy's freshman year roommate; and Cindy Hwang Bokser, a Korean-American Mash-Up, founder of Niroma Studio. Then we have a sweet tribute to DJ Rekha and Basement Bhangra, the longest running event in NYC nightlife history. Get those shoulders wiggling! And last but certainly not least, the never-before-told origin story of The Mash-Up Americans. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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What happens when the country you live in sees the country your family is from as the enemy? With actor/comedian Maz Jobrani and chef/author Bonnie Frumkin Morales. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Holidays are here, bringing soooo many questions. This week, Amy and Rebecca play advice columnists with a special guest to answer your holiday etiquette questions. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Our Thanksgiving table? Banchan and mashed potatoes—from the box. Thanksgiving is a day for Mash-Ups to test out what being American tastes like to them. With brilliant foodie Francis Lam of The Splendid table and writer Nishta Mehra. We are grateful for you, fam! Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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You know there's no Mash-Up without a little mashing up, right? We dive into some of our favorite topics: Sex! Dating! Relationships! And we did it live, onstage at WNYC's The Greene Space in New York. Scandalous. With Ti Chang, Maeve Higgins, Sopan Deb, Tobin Low, and Travon Free. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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A signature quality of Mash-Ups? Our perseverance and our resilience. But we want more than to just survive. We want to thrive. Enter: Prioritizing our mental health. Guests this week: Nora McInerney of Terrible, Thanks for Asking and Kulap Vilaysack of Bajillion Dollar Properties and the forthcoming documentary, Origin Story. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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New season, new sound. With more questions, more laughs, and more tears! We are so excited to share with you the very first episode of our new season. And today, we're talking about immigration. Specifically, our immigrant parents. We visit with Mexican-American Mash-Up Brenda Gonzalez, a formerly undocumented student and now civil rights advocate with UnidosUS and host of The Tamarindo Podcast. She shares her coming to America story and the impossible choice her parents made to bring her and her brother to the U.S. without their papers.

We're privy to an intimate mother-daughter conversation between Cambodian-American Mash-Up filmmaker Vanara Taing and her mom, Vanny Pat, about how they became American after arriving in the U.S. as refugees.

Finally, we sit down with Randall Park, who you know from Fresh Off The Boat, Veep, and all the places you find funniness happening. He talks to us about finding the strength and spirit he draws from his immigrant parents, and what he hopes to pass on to his daughter, Ruby. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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We. Are. Back. It's been a helluva few months. And Mash-Ups, we missed you! So. We're back for our usual blend of group therapy, belly laughs, tears, and side eye as we explore what makes us American today. And for this special preview episode of our new season, we're tackling that very important question: What is your bubbemeise? Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Amy & Rebecca head out on summer vacay—to prep for a new season and a new sound! But first, they spend some time flashing back to their favorite mashy interviews. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Hillary Frank of The Longest Shortest Time. Jonathan Menjivar of This American Life. You know their voices. You love their work. But did you know they are ALSO mash-up married? Hillary, a Russian-Jewish-American Mash-Up, and Jonathan, a Mexican-Salvadoran-American Mash-Up, joined Rebecca and Amy in the studio for their first-ever interview as a couple. We talked parenting, chanclas, Gael Garcia Bernal, latkes, and what it feels like when your insides don’t match your outside. Mash-Up HQ: Where America Goes For Therapy. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Hasan Minhaj drops his first Netflix comedy special, "Homecoming King, in just a few days, so we think it's an excellent time to revisit our awesome conversation with him. “Homecoming King" tells the story of New Brown America, aka Mash-Up America. He came to our studios to talk guilt, the American Dream, hip hop, his infamous Congressional mic drop, biryani rice terrorism, and the greatness of Zayn Malik. Oh, and that new Mash-Up Avengers squad we’re forming. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Suleika Jaouad, a first-generation Tunisian-Swiss-Muslim-American Mash-Up, battled cancer as a 22-year-old and kicked.its.ass. She also brought truth and joy to the world with her writings on cancer treatment and recovery with her column Life, Interrupted in The New York Times. She sat down with Rebecca and Amy to discuss sex —or lack thereof — as a cancer patient, why she’ll never eat rice pudding again, and what it’s like to be sick in a culture that doesn’t like to talk about death. Oh, and the life-changing importance of band camp. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Sarah Eagle Heart, of the Oglala Lakota tribe, is a Native American activist, educator, storyteller and all-around badass. She is also the first Native American guest on The Mash-Up Americans. She schools Amy and Rebecca on the Indian boarding school era, how she took down a totally racist Homecoming tradition as a teenager, and why identifying as American is both a point of pride and pain. They also discuss the virtues of a matcha latte. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Joan Nathan, the world's foremost expert on Jewish food, chats with Amy and Rebecca about herbal viagra, pho as a substitute for chicken noodle soup, and why all food is a mash-up. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Comedian Maeve Higgins talks about the strange Irishness of Trump’s inner circle and Rebecca learns about Amy's favorite seasonal beverage: The Shamrock Shake. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Soledad O’Brien on why she counts the minorities in the room and how Mash-Ups have the power to change the conversation. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Rhea Suh, president of The National Resources Defense Council and first-generation-Korean-American Mash-Up, shares her favorite way to camp (with Korean BBQ); the importance of fighting every day for the American Dream; and why today is THE day to get engaged on the environment. Promise: You don’t need hiking boots to become an activist and save the world, y’all. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Mash-Up relationships and marriages are always tricky (Two cultures! Two religions! Two ethnicities! We’re already dizzy) so we’re calling in the experts on this one. We talk with Nigerian-American Anthonia Akitunde, founder of Mater Mea, about her challenges planning her mash-up wedding to her white, Jewish fiance. And we bring in wedding planner Rebecca Pfiffner for expert advice on how to handle a wedding, and marriage, when relationships and cultures and families can clash. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Lena Waithe, aka the coolest girl in LA, sat down with Amy and Rebecca to chat about the role of the artist in turbulent times, what it was like explaining "redbones" to Aziz Ansari on "Master of None," and the importance of a lesbian manicure. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Mash-Up HQ’s resolutions for 2017: Be with more people IRL! Don’t do shit we don’t want to do! And, with the guidance of our guest Dr. Mindy Fullilove, a research psychiatrist and expert in collective trauma and our collective consciousness, we’re gonna orient ourselves to our new political reality, clarify our values, and organize with our communities. Clear eyes, full hearts, can’t lose. Bring it, 2017. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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It’s our very first live show, Mash-Ups! And it features Rebecca and the very amazing Eddie Huang, founder of Baohaus restaurants, author of Fresh Off The Boat and Double Cup Love, and host of Huang’s World on Vice. They talk authenticity, chopsticks, travel, and how to always love yourself. Plus, the voice of God makes an appearance! This program was taped at Scripps College's Garrison Theater as part of its public programming series, Scripps Presents. The series features conversations with some of today's most lively and provocative thinkers whose work explores the intersection of contemporary humanities and popular culture. Check it out!

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We celebrate our podcast’s first birthday with John Maeda, design legend, technologist, artist, and the global head of design and inclusion of Automattic, the company that basically runs every website you visit. We discuss optimism, hope, and how to make a radical vision of inclusion a reality: basically, everything that sustains us and you. Also, bloopers! Happy birthday to all of us! Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Hasan Minhaj is a comedian, our favorite Daily Show correspondent, and the creator and star of his one-man show, “Homecoming King,” which tells the story of New Brown America. He came to our studios to talk optimism, politics, guilt, the American Dream, hip hop, his infamous Congressional mic drop, biryani rice terrorism, the greatness of Zayn Malik, and so much more, including a new Mash-Up Avengers squad we’re forming. Taking sign-ups now. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Esther Perel, Flemish-Belgian-Jewish-American Mash-Up and world-renowned expert on sex and relationships, sits down with Amy to discuss fetishes, why Americans are terrible at flirting and why we’re obsessed with “productive” sex — and we’re not talking about making babies. Also discussed: Amy’s “First Asian Rule” and Esther’s tips for having the best sex of our lives. We’re here for you, fam. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Michelle Collins, the Hungarian-Israeli-Jewish-American Mash-Up you know from After Paradise and The View, sits down with Amy and Rebecca to talk about her love of Martin Lawrence, getting slapped silly when she got her period, and why she doesn't make jokes about the Holocaust — but it's totally cool if other people do. Well, certain other people. It's complicated! Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Anna Holmes, co-host of the About Race podcast, founder of Jezebel, and content queen at First Look Media, grew up with a Black dad and a white mom in California. She chats with us about her childhood jheri curl, what side she’d choose in a race war, and why we should all be a little more f(*cking humble when it comes to our ideas about, well, about anything. Oh, and cat cafes! Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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The executive producer "Latino USA" sits down with Amy and Rebecca to talk about who will determine this election, define objectivity, and shape the future. (Hint: It’s you, Mash-Ups!) Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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It’s Olympics time, and at Mash-Up HQ that always means a little tug-of-war. Who do we root for? Team USA all the way, but other countries ALSO have our allegiance. Featuring our very first Olympian, Phillip Chew, star of the very mashy American badminton team; and Matt Ufford, editor at large for SB Nation and total mensch. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, the Republican Nominee for President was not Donald Trump. Today, it is. So we're resharing the very first episode of our podcast with you. The Donald may have built a whole campaign on xenophobia and fear, but in truth, his whole life has been filled with immigration and mashiness. Here's our conversation with Trump biographer and Pulitzer Prize winner Michael D'Antonio, and what we learned about our possible future president. Visit mashupamericans.com for more.

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Rebecca + Amy visit a naturalization ceremony in LA; take a citizenship test on air to see if they could become American; and get deep on what it means to make America your home with Mia Lehrer, an acclaimed landscape architect with Jewish and Salvadoran roots who chose to become a citizen after decades in the U.S. Also? She's Rebecca's mom. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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…Is a great woman. And that woman is Tina Tchen, chief of staff to the First Lady, assistant to President Obama, and Executive Director of the Council on Women and Girls. She is also majorly mashy, a lifelong advocate for women, and the creator of the United State of Women Summit. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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The co-creator of "Master of None" hangs with us to talk immigrant parents, his BFF Shonda Rhimes, and writing the real ish. Visit mashupamericans.com for more

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… and starts getting real. The Top Chef host, model, and memoirist talks sex, food, and dating advice from her mom. Visit mashupamericans.com for more!

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Rebecca and Amy host an awards show honoring the mashiest movies of all time. Who wins for best portrayal of a nerdy Latino? Listen and find out! Visit mashupamericans.com for more

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We're talking luv, race and representation with Awkwafina, Korean-Chinese-American rapper and entertainer. Plus live love advice from her grandma, married 58 years. mashupamericans.com for more

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