We've got three fairly Doom-tastic issues of the FF to go over. We get a day in the life of Doom running the show over in Latveria, and then a two-issue battle of Sue, Johnny and Ben vs. Terrax the Untamed (who's gotten his Power Cosmic back thanks to Doom). The FF end up winning, with the help of the Silver Surfer, but in the end one question remains: where the heck is Reed? Plus we get to some mail, where we cover 70s sci-fi recs, thoughts on Reed and Sue's romantic activites, how we would wrap up comics if Marvel were to come to an end and a little on Ryan North's current FF run.

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The Milksops 3 finish their coverage of Zot! with a humdinger of an issue: "Normal." Originally released as Zot #33, this tells the story of Jenny's best friend Terry coming to terms with her sexuality as a gay teenager in a very homophobic high school. Although it's aged very well, it still helps to remember this issue came out in 1990. As the rest of comicdom was about to embark on a bombastic era of variant covers, millions of  X-books and the birth of hyper-active Image Comics, Scott McCloud was putting the finishing touches on a serene, deeply human, beautifully rendered superhero book. There's dark stuff in here, sure, and also lots of compassionate moments as Terry struggles with who to trust, and how much. We also go over the ending arc of issues in Zot that are known as the "Earth Stories" where the superheroics are at a minimum. Although we find the very end of the series a bit of a letdown, there's no doubt that the Milksops are stunned and amazed at the quality of these issues.  Email the podcast: screwitcomics@gmail.com

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The Milksops Three continue their coverage of Zot!, the late 1980s indie comic that featured a Golden Age style optimistic hero wrestling with the emotional challenges of "our" Earth. In this episode we cover "The Ghost in the Machine" which is Zot's three-issue battle against one of his main villains, 9-Jack-9. Jack is a legitimiately terrifying villain, an assassin who can travel via electrical wires, has no emotion, and is incredibly smart. By the way, he killed Zot's parents. But in typical Zot fashion, these stories differ from most superhero stuff in that they focus on the emotional angle way more than, say, punching. There's loss of family members, the struggle to not give up hope, the forgiveness of our enemies, all shown around the scary visage of the genteman Killer, 9-Jack-9. Email us at screwitcomics@gmail.com

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The Milksops Three (Will, Kevin and Brian) discuss the "black and white" era of Zot! comics. We discuss how much this comic levels up in terms of quality, ambition and emotion, in both art and story. We see Zot trying to convince Jenny that her Earth is worth living in, as she tries to convince him to visit more and more. We meet Jenny's friends, and even see a few tender moments of older brother/sometimes monkey Butch. Email us at screwitcomics@gmail.com.

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A special mini-episode to honor the special mini issues of Zot that came out, which were drawn by stick figure genius Matt Feazell. The Milksops were all big fans of these. They inspired a young Kevin Hines to make mini-comics of his own! Email us at screwitcomics@gmail.com.

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Kevin and Will welcome Milksop #3 - Brian Hines, the legendary third Hines brother to the podcast. We talk about a comic that has meant a lot to each of us: Zot! Created by Scott McCloud (Understanding Comics), Zot ran from the mid-80s through the very early 90s, and represented a sensitive, human and nuanced look at a superhero arc. The stories brought influences of manga to an American book in a way that hadn't been done in any prominent fashion. Plus the sweet, compassionate world of Zot stood out in contrast to the brutal grimness featured in many other 80s comics. Email us at screwitcomics@gmail.com.

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The FF finish their Negative Zone saga! We've got aliens that look like salamanders, Reed rebuilding his own consciousness, and a plan to save the end of the world that worked because the Avengers are able to, um, well... okay, we can't tell why it worked. But it DID work and so the FF return to their own Earth in time to stop Annihulus. Or maybe just scare him off? In our mailbag section, we get corrected and then (probably) make more errors!

The FF are in the Negative Zone. The Negative Zone is an alternate universe which is different from our universe in that it is.... well, it's not that different. But it means Reed, Sue, Ben and Johnny are visiting a new planet every issue, meeting a new alien race and encountering a big ironic twist! Kinda a la Star Trek. Meanwhile super-mean bad guy Annihulus has taken up residence in the Baxter Building. More Negative Zone coverage next episode! In our mailbag, we have more pitches for our unnamed media segment and also questions about comics!

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FF #250 has the FF vs Gladiator, plus the X-Men (kind of) and the Skrulls, in a double-sized fight-tastic story. Then #251 sets up what is going to be a run of stories set in the Negative Zone. Your hosts, the Milksops, like it all. Plus we've got mail. Sop it up!

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The character that we refer to many times as "Guardian" is actually "Gladiator."

Three more John Byrne FF issues! We've got "This Land Is Mine" which makes the argument that Latveria might be better off when Doom is in charge. The Milkshops are not convinced, but also can see that Byrne is trying to give nuance to the main FF nemesis. We've got an Inhumans one-and-done story where the FF are trapped (and.. murdered?) by a huge alien. And finally a big battle against The Guardian (super-powered "knight" of the Shi'ar royal family) who thinks the FF are Skrulls! Makes sense, right? Plus we go through our mail which includes another "must read in full" letter from Chris Gethard.

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