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Hello, dog lovers. we so appreciate you for advocating for your dog's health. And today, our friend Emily O'Neil is going to share how You Can Take the Leash and Help Your Dog's Health. Emily, why don't you introduce yourself and tell us about why you are, “crazy for canines”.

Emily is mom to Flynn, a 5-year-old Border Collie, as well as host for the podcast Dogs are the Best Friends where guests share stories about their best friends and Emily shares some hard earned wisdom on training and care. Emily and Flynn are about to travel in their tiny home on wheels to see her birth parents who she just found in the summer of 2019. She is sharing her story and travels on her YouTube channel: Emily O'Neil.

Thank you so much Krista. I appreciate being here. I have my own podcast and I had you on I want to make sure that people know to go and listen to your episode as well. And I'm so grateful to have a friendship with you. Because we get it we are crazy for the canines. And we love our dogs so much they've taught us so much. And they inspire us all the time. And so on my podcast people, you know, they share their stories, their love of their dogs, what they've learned from them from training or health or whatever it is. And I'm grateful to be here because I learned a huge lesson through my dogs of how to advocate how to be pro dog and take care of my dogs in a way that sits well with me. And we all have to do that we have to be in charge of that we understand that, you know, we can take charge in that basically. So that's why I'm here today to do that. And I'm grateful to share my experiences and and to just, you know, to be able to speak on that because it's so close to my heart. I'm a researcher by trade. I'm a dog mom. And it just this is this is what I believe in. I'm so excited to be here. Thank you.

I am so thrilled you're here. Right now you have Flynn, who is adorable. Why don't you tell us a little bit about him and what he means to you, you know the bond that you guys have?

Yeah, Flynn is five years old. Now. I got him when he was one and a half. He was not a puppy. And I still can't believe I did that. Because I always said, Oh, they have to be a puppy so you can bond with them. But I had lost my beloved dog she was I call her my soul dog. That was my Mazie. And she was another Border Collie. And she passed on at 13 1/5. And sadly, it was due to cancer. I'll tell you that story, you know, in a little bit, but I was heartbroken. And I was so lonely and devastated that I thought I'd never want another dog part of me and the other part just couldn't live without a dog. So three months later, ended up finding Fynn and I went to find a puppy. But the the man said no, you know, you might like this dog. He is a year and a half. He's a very nice dog. And I went thinking No way. I'm going to get a puppy but I saw Flynn and he was so happy to see me and we just bonded in that few hours that I sat there and and petted him and played with him and get to know him. So Flynn is just a joyful friend that I'm so grateful for. He's definitely become a heart dog and I don't know he must be on the way to a soul dog too. he's a wonderful inspiration. Yes.

That’s a. great story. Well, am I right that you've had three dogs so far?

As an adult. as a as a kid, we had a bunch. Yeah. And we weren't the best owners. I have to admit, up front straight up. Oh, gosh, definitely. And that the first dog Morgan, I learned a ton with her. I was not the best dog mom with her in the beginning, because I was so green I she was not well behaved. And I didn't feed her the best food. And yeah, she's the one that started off the learning process for sure. Yeah, what's great to say, I can start .Yeah, Morgie, Oh, my gosh, well, I got her as a puppy. She was adorable. She had just been spayed. I got her from the SPCA up in New York State, I lived in western New York at the time. And she was just so cute. I just was in love as soon as I found her, but I took her home and, you know, feeding her I'd like to say the brand, but you know, just really bad food. And the poor dog developed horrible skin problems. And she's this gorgeous dog, but she literally smelled and she had skin problems. And like she was itchy. And, you know, like the worst situation you can pick, you know, like the hot spots, everything the poor, the poor dog. And so I started to try to figure out what was wrong with her. And you know, you take them to the vet, and they say something, or they want to give them you know, different shots or different medicines and things. And I already was on the path of not believing in and just going ahead with what other people told me to do. So I started asking other people what they did, and doing research and looking into it the best I could. And the more questions I asked the more, you know, of course, more answers you get, but also it gives you you start to see patterns, like and people that you feel that you can trust, and you understand their point of view. And they also if they're somebody that really cares about the truth, they'll lead you to like, you know, different articles or books or whatever, that have great information. And I'm so grateful for the people that led me in the right direction for poor Morgan because she, you know, was just a tortured soul. I think to that point, because her mom just didn't know any better. But once I learned about raw food, and you know, like that, right there cleaned up 90% of her problems, getting her on the right food that was crucial. And then also just her mental health, I had to get her out more right walking and taking better care of her and training her giving her boundaries. So all that came together. And again, I'm grateful to the people that helped me, because that started me on the right path of looking for more natural ways to heal and heal myself. Right. We learn through our dogs sometimes. Sure. And then we realized we can apply it to ourselves, which, you know, sometimes it's backwards, but that’s us humans. were we sometimes care more about our dogs than ourselves. So yeah.

Ok. So, there's a happy ending with Morgan. How long did that whole process and journey take to get her back on the road to wellness?

You know, this is like over 20 years ago. So trying to think I think it was, you know, it took months to detox. There's all that junk that was in that food, like corn, corn is like the worst thing for dogs, right? So there's things like that, I'd say, probably a year before she didn't need a bath every week, we could go like, you know, and Morgie never got to go beyond like a couple months. My other dogs can go beyond a couple months without a bath. But Morgan, I think because of that start, you know, and then I also let her get all the vaccinations that they always told me she should have. And I believe that is another reason that poor Morgan needed a bath like every four to six weeks. But yeah, I say within a year, she had detoxed a lot in her skin, and her body and her stomach, everything was just so much better. And speaking of vaccinations, just really quick, I have to make sure I share this, I would let her get the distemper shot because of course it's recommended every year. And the last time she got it. She was almost five years old. And she came home and she was a completely different dog. And I know that sounds dramatic and ridiculous to some people but she literally was not my Morgie. She was not as sweet, or as patient or anything. She just became a different dog. She was not. She didn't want to be touched, you know, like snuggled anything. And so that was a huge red flag to me that I needed to research like, are these things really needed or not? And so after that, with Morgan and every dog since I do not over vaccinate, I refuse to give my dogs everything that they recommend other than what I have to do by state law, which in Florida and New York state where I used to live you know, that's rabies. But yeah, I'd recommend people really do some research on that too. Just so your dog doesn't become a different dog. It broke my heart but I learned again on poor Morgan right. my first dog so yeah,

Well, she was there for a reason. She was your teacher.

Yeah. Very true. Yeah. I hope she forgives me. Thank God. Yes. Is True, very true.

Okay, so that was Morgan. And then your second dog.

Yeah, Mazie. So Mazie, I guess, I would say that Morgan was so smart, I had to get a border collie, because Morgie was a mixed dog, she was supposed to be a German Shepherd. And actually think she was a German Shepherd or a Malinois and a coyote. I know sounds ridiculous, but it's true. So I got a border collie. And Mazie was, again, my soul dog. I just loved that. We just clicked and she wanted so much to please me and do what I want. And that's one of the great things about their brains, but they’re high energy, and I also called her Crazy Mazie, because she was. So Mazie Lou, she, Oh, my gosh, when she was nine months old, I was already in love with her. She developed this tumor on her throat, that just kept growing, I felt it grow all the way up to the size of like the top half of my thumb, it got to be pretty big. And I took her into the vet. And the vet said, You know, I could cut it out. It might grow back, I don't know what to tell you. And she did withdraw a syringe full of fluid out of it. And it took a couple of days. And then she got back to me, called me and said, You know that fluid is pre cancerous. And that was devastating because I thought I could lose my dog in months. Or maybe maybe she'll even be around a couple years. But you know, you're already crazy about your nine month puppy, and you don't want them to go anywhere. So what happened was my friend had been bothering me, I call it to try what she I called it her crazy energy medicine, which I know sounds not very nice. But that's what it was to me. I did not understand the concept of it at all. And so I told her, I said, Well, my dog has been diagnosed with pre cancerous fluid in this tumor that will stop growing. And the vet doesn't know what to do. So if you and your crazy energy medicine can fix my dog, I will believe in it. And so what happened was that my friend tested her and discovered that she had all these different toxins in her body from the vaccinations, like the cocktail shots, that they like to give puppies, and yes, very scary. And so we detoxed her and I kid you not, with that one first remedy, but went all the way down to the size of a pea within like a week, maybe two weeks or something, it's been a little while sorry, it was like within two weeks. And then it went down to nothing, and it never came back. And so that was my that was that convinced me that there's obviously other ways to heal the body, whether it's dogs or humans, or whatever it is. And so Morgie started me on the path of eating right and looking at those things. But then Mazie started me on the path of looking at completely different types of modalities that I might never have considered before. Because they just seemed just not logical to me. But once I started studying, and looking at the different ways that people are able to heal, and your shows, your episodes really help highlight that. There's so many different things that people are using to help their dogs, whether it's CBD oil, or you know, whatever you have, of course, food always and like you said you had mushrooms on recently. So there's, there's so many ways that people can help. And I know that can seem overwhelming. But I would just say start looking start asking questions. And you might be surprised at what can actually help your dog heal. A lot of people don't believe in homeopathy. I do. I've seen it work I've seen it help heal. Well, me and my dogs to be honest with you. So I think that if we let ourselves learn, like you said, Morgan was my first teacher, Mazie was my second teacher, I'm learning things with Flynn as I go. And if we let our dogs teach us, you know, it's just, it's amazing. It can literally be the difference between death and life. Now, I did lose Mazie years later to cancer, but that was 13 and a half? Well, let's say she's nine months or so, over 12 years later. So I got 12 years with that dog. I mean, and what amazing 12 years we had. we traveled all over and just had a wonderful life together. So was it worth it? Yeah, it's totally worth it. And I'm grateful. So again, my second teacher. Yes, it is.

So when you say homeopathy with Mazie, what was that? Yeah. Besides the energy work, herbs, or did she have acupuncture or anything else as far as treatments?

Yeah, yeah, good question. That's a really good question, because I don't believe in just one modality. So in her case, we did this thing that, you know, basically, it's really hard to explain, but I'm going to try to do it. And I actually became a practitioner, I studied and I became a practitioner because I became to believe in it so much, and I would work on dogs and people up in New York state when I used to do it. But what happens is you can actually test the body, through kinesiology to see where the weaknesses in the body, you know, so let's say in the heart, and then you can test to see which toxins are actually making the body sick, it might be just one, it might be a few different things going on. And you can actually carefully detox it out of the body so that it can heal. And then you can go on and keep helping the body heal and see what comes up the next time. So that is actually what we were using with that first initial remedy, that helped get rid of that tumor. And then I kept going, and we kept detoxing, and they explain it and I think someone was on your show before they explained this too, but it's like, an onion, and you have to pull off the layers, you know, to get get down into really, how we're supposed to be much healthier, and we are healthier when we're born. But all the toxins in our environment, our food and everything really add up. And so it adds on these layers that your body's trying to fight through. And we can help our bodies. And that's one of them, that's one way to do it. And there's different practitioners that do that all over the world. And so that that's something that I still help, you know, work on myself and my dogs with that. And then also homeopathy dovetails nicely, because that is, that is like, something that's natural that the body knows how to deal with. But if the, you know, how do I say…the symptoms, if they're looking like that, then and even if it's not related, let's say it's like a bee sting, like you're having the symptoms of a bee sting. And if you give your dog, you know that remedy, the homeopathic remedy can actually help the body know what to do, and heal that as well. And then there's Yeah, there's acupoints like hands on pushing at different points to their bodies that can help them heal. So there's so many different ways that we can learn. And I know people might seem over overwhelmed at first. So just start with one start to learn about one and figure out what you're comfortable with. I've used everything from tuning forks, which I, when I first heard that, at that, that was crazy. But let's face it, when we hear music that we enjoy, that lifts our spirits, it is healing. And so the same thing with the tuning forks. Yeah, it's like this, again, it's kind of energy, but it's, it's the tuning forks, I have are musical notes. And there's just, it's beautiful. And I was able to help a neighbor the other day, who is in extreme pain, and we were able to reduce her pain. And she had more movements, like within 20 minutes in her neck, which was totally frozen before that. So these things are powerful. They get, like, I hate to say it, but you know, often what Western medicine doesn't take them into account. And if you can find a doctor that's open minded, and does, you know is willing to entertain that that's wonderful. But it can be tough. And sometimes you have to take their advice and maybe even use their medical tests or something if you want and then look at other possibilities. like find other ways that you can help your dog heal. And and yourself. To be honest, I think this goes along with all living beings. There's different ways I was even able to help a llama I used to have with a remedy. So yeah, it can be for anybody. It's a big deal.

So now you have Flynn. And he's five years. Yeah. So is he 100% healthy? Or did he bring you something that says, Hey, Mom, check this out? What should we do?

Right? Yes, he's the most difficult dog I've ever had with his stomach. He likes different foods, he'll grab different things. See, but it doesn't mean his stomach will like it. So we've had to, you know, go, he can't do raw, which just breaks my heart. I totally believe in Raw. So I do the raw of freeze dried patties. And that has helped him tremendously. He is, oh gosh, I'd say he's like 90% better in that area. And it took me it took that actually took about two years for his gut to heal. And that was adding in like some greens and, you know, just different things that I had to figure out. And through Kinesiology and I can, you know, people can actually look it up, you can teach yourself how to test different foods and things to make sure that it's okay for you or for your dog. And it might be okay, one day and not the next. It just depends on our bodies. Right. And the sleep we've had and the sleep they've had or whatever, or even the water what kind of water have they had to drink today or something too. So I yeah, it's interesting. I thought Flynn. Oh, he'll be perfect. I know what to do about everything. Now. No, no. Yes, yeah. And we're all individuals aren't we like Flynn. You know, he’s had I would say probably some trauma. He was flown over from Ireland when he was six months old. And I don't know it was I hope he was in the cargo or something. I don't know. But you know, that was quite a shock for his little body to go through. And then a man that had him before he sold him to me, you know, he had him almost a year, and then he had to change homes again. And I knew that how does that not affect them? So I think he was just a nervous bellied pup, you know, like, he had different nervous things. And he had to know I was never going to give him up. And, you know, now he has me wrapped around his paw, of course, because he's just a wonderful dog. But I think all these things add up, and just like our own trauma can add up and actually damage our body. Same thing with dogs. So Flynn had a nervous stomach, it's come along way. That's not to say that we can have a setback. we will go a couple months and all sudden, you know, he can have some serious problems. And that that means like, you know, diarrhea or whatever. So we have to then figure out what happened and back up and, you know, if I want to change his food, I have to do it. So carefully, like half a teaspoon, starting to incorporate it and change it. So, yeah, just a heads up to folks that, you know, just because you think you learned it all. No, that's not how the universe seems to work.

So what do you recommend for people? You know, because most of us learn by Oh, my dog was just diagnosed with XYZ, I guess I better figure it out. Now. What is this? Right? versus? Okay, I have a brand new dog, a new rescue, I have a new puppy. How do I set them up for success? So yeah, you can't learn everything right off the bat, because you have no idea what their body is going to do throughout their lives. So are you saying food for sure. Not over vaccinating, plenty of exercise, both physical and mental. And then learn about these other integrative or holistic techniques that do work. And that when you need them, you know, be open to it. Is that a good summary?

Yeah, that's excellent. Absolutely. I mean, food is not cheap. But I would rather spend the money on the food than on, you know, the vet bills. Yeah, totally. Because they're so expensive and heartbreaking. And it's scary. You don't know what's wrong with your dog. So yeah, yeah. All that you said, you know, they need training for their mental stimulation, the physical, the food, everything that you can do. And then there's still going to be things like little Flynn here, you know, there's different things that, you know, set their body off in different ways. You know, and when we're stressed, it just passes on to our dogs. I really believe that. And so, yeah, and I was just sharing with you before we started that, right now, I'm going through a little bit of a health crisis of my own, and that stuff keeps you humble, of course, too. But it also goes to your dog. And so I think sometimes when I'm exhausted and stressed, you know, it's just really, you know, Flynn feels it. So, I yeah, I would recommend that people start with those basics that are so key to all of us, and into our dogs, they really need that. And that's a great foundation, and then look at the different issues that are coming up. And I honestly believe in taking notes. Take notes, like on certain days, if your dog you know, if it's having some problems, you know, and try to see what's going on around you did they just spray the lawn or your neighbor's lawn? You know, look at all the things that are going on. Look at the season, maybe you know, Flynn has horrible pollen allergies, oh my gosh, he's, I cannot believe how bad he was itching a few weeks ago. But in Florida, we just had the pollen just dumped, seemed to dump off in the trees, basically, the oak trees and things and pine was back in February. And it just he'll have ups and downs just from that alone. And he becomes very itchy. And it's not from his food, he doesn't ask him promise because that is because of the environment. So my boy is incredibly sensitive to any kind of thing like that. And so then what I've been doing with him is like the acupoints. And of course the best food I can give him and and he does have to be rinsed off, I don't believe in giving them you know, bath after bath with the soap and things. But I do rinse him off. He needs that pollen and that spray off of him. And that's the thing in Florida, there's major spraying people are, you know, we're really in a humid environment. So yeah, bugs are a problem. But they are trying to solve it, you know, for all these years with spraying. Oh, gosh, yeah, it's horrible. So I think the biggest thing is, yeah, be an advocate for your dog. Number one, go ahead if you want to have the test done and things but it doesn't mean you have to solve it the way that your vet is telling you to solve it. And I'm not saying that they have no value. Of course, ideally, you can find a vet that you do trust, and that you can have open dialogue about you know what you want to do and see if they know anything or are willing to work with you. But also I think we have to go with our gut. There's nothing wrong with saying to yourself, I'm not comfortable with this solution. I'm not comfortable with that idea. So let me go and research it, and take some time to figure this out. So I think, too often we, you know, and we do, we were like, We're exhausted, right? We want to be able to just take what somebody says, go do it. But if you can, step back a moment, go with your gut, and take your time and start asking your friends or ask people that you trust, you know, they, and they might be, you know, the I, that's one of the first people that taught me, I found a wonderful dog food, you know, pet food store owner. And so she actually, not only, you know, sold things, but you know, which, because then sometimes we think, oh, they're just about the sales. No, this woman truly wanted to educate people. And she was tremendous. I can't say enough about her. So if you can find someone like that wonderful. But I think if you can start reading different journals, like I love the Whole Dog Journal, that is a phenomenal journal. So good. And so start there and start reading it, see which writers you trust. And then you know, they might have books or other articles, and start there. And just know that you can empower yourself. There's, I was just looking, for example, at Colorado, like I know, Florida's resources, right, but I wanted to see what does Colorado have. And so Colorado, has completely free databases that you can research and look for articles. And so that's where you can go start looking and looking for, you know, look for articles there. And completely free the state pays for it, use those resources, and empower yourself to, to know that you have your gut, you have your feeling about something for a reason. You might like I had a dog come to me when I was in New York State practicing, and they had recommended this certain type of food. And it turns out their food had cranberries in it, and the dog was allergic to cranberries. So yeah, go with your gut. And if you feel like you know, if you know the food caused it, you know, and if you can find somebody that can help you figure out what's wrong with it. Great. But otherwise, take the food bag, get your money back and try something else. Yeah, I think it's so crucial that and I just as a researcher, myself, I just want people to know that the information is out there. And don't necessarily go to Google. I know everybody wants to because it's easy. But please use some of these really good resources, like the Whole Dog Journal or other things that you've talked about a ton of resources on your episodes. So they definitely need to listen to those. And if they haven't heard them, go back and listen again. Because, yeah, it's crucial. And it's worth it. It's worth it. And don't, don't get overwhelmed. Everybody can do it. If I can do it, anybody can do it.

Well, that's a good point, Emily, because you are such a huge believer and community. And there are others out there who are going through what you're going through. So you don't need to feel alone there. You know, there's groups, there's forums, there's so many resources to your point. Well, as we are wrapping up, again, Emily hosts, the Dogs are the Best Friend's podcast, which is awesome, great guests. great stories. So Emily, what is the main takeaway that you've learned from all of your interviews on the show?

Oh wow! that dogs are such wonderful friends to us. They teach us they challenge us, they help us grow. And their love is just like, unlike any other really, there's just nothing like it. I've had people that have shared horrible times that they've gone through. Or, for example, there's one young woman that came on, and she was her dog was supposed to be trained to alert her. And sadly, it wasn't very well trained. So she had to give, give it some more training. And then they came to realize that the dog was not only alerting for her diabetes, but it also is alerting for another condition that she has. So I think if we just remember that, to listen to our dogs, and to appreciate them, and to see what they're trying to teach us like like you said before, Morgan was my teacher. Mazie was my teacher, and Flynn’s teaching me as well. And I'm just grateful for all the stories that people share because they just bring life and light and sometimes encouragement when people need it. Like if their dog wasn't behaving well. And I just hope that people will come and have a listen and enjoy. Like you said, it's a community we love our dogs and are crazy for our canines and and it just helps to kind of bring a little bit of light into those dark times that we have sometimes too.

I so agree with you. Well, Emily, where can everybody find out more information about you and your podcast? Dogs are the Best Friends and I know you've already started a YouTube channel as well.

Yeah, yeah, it's https://dogsarethebestfriends.com/ is the website and you can find me also on Instagram. @dogsarethebestfriendscom for the account for that, too. And then we are actually on Facebook, we have a small community on there as well just to share fun stories and funny memes and things like that. And also just encourage each other there too. And that Yeah, and then the YouTube I know it's so funny. I don't have enough going on. right but the the YouTube channel is just to share some fun stories about Fynn and I we are on a very interesting adventure. I found my birth parents just in the summer of 2019. And that was huge. That was life changing. So I will get to go see my you know, my birth family as I call them this summer, and I will share those journeys with people in the lessons and also the good and bad of like converting a cargo trailer. Because I've learned from that as well. And I'd love to have people join me on the journey. It'll make it more interesting. Right. So thank you so much for having me. Amazing.

We so appreciate all of your insight. And thank you to Flynn, Mazie and Morgan for doing their part and teaching you and therefore teaching us so safe journey. I can't wait to hear about your adventure. And thank you for being with us and being an amazing dog mom.

Thank you so much, Krista. You're the best. Truly, thank you so much.

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