Star of the award winning hit shows, Castle and This is Us, Jon Huertas sits with America's Podcaster, Kurt Caceres. The story behind the line "the canvas came up empty". He had to get creative to make the dialogue interesting and keep the job exciting. Often times dialogue is exposition without any depth or deep character development. He reveals how he won the job on This is Us. He was doing a chemistry read with One Day at a Time star, Justina Machado, and working with the legendary Norman Lear.