DJ Excel spins once again with America's Podcaster, Kurt Caceres, to continue their discussion on the lives of artists and entertainers. It's a lifetime of hustle. The day you get complacent, is the day you start to lose your career. It's a constant grind, always changing, dynamic and never monotonous. Maybe that's why they are attracted to the uncertainty of the creative process. They talk about what separates A-List celebrities from the rest and what it means to adapt as an artist after a year like 2020.