Kaua’i is the oldest Hawaiian island, has the most endemic species and is the wettest place in the US. At this island’s northern edge is Hanalei Bay, where  Barbara “Maka‘ala” Ka‘aumoana has run the Hanalei River Hui for the past three decades. We talk about indegenous views of nature’s magic, cesspools, how navigating beyond the horizon requires believing in the strength of your inner vision, and how the sound of planks on a bridge helped save a town.

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