It’s impossible to move at the moment for think pieces about the future of AI and for better or worse you’re getting another one here.

In this episode I’ll talk a bit about examples from art, music, writing and coding and how what could be an incredible advance for some will bring consequences for others.

I show how with text to speech advances it's hard to tell real and AI adverts apart, how whole songs can be created from just a sentence and the argument around 'homeopathic robbery' in that if you train on so much data it's impossible to tell where you've taken from then is it really theft or just a paradigm shift.

Links:

Text to Speech with Eleven Labs: https://elevenlabs.io/

Text to Music with Udio: https://www.udio.com/

Full episode of 'Hard Fork' that includes discussion around AI art and copyright issues:

fork-elon-empire-artists-ai.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/20/podcasts/20hard-fork-elon-empire-artists-ai.html

Full episode with Andy Stanton on his book Benny the Blue Whale: A Descent into Story, Language and the Madness of ChatGPT

https://podcasting.makingcreativitypay.com/chatgpt-and-creativity-andy-stanton/

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“It feels like people do have to almost have a second career to support themselves. And it's not clear where the kind of goals or the safe spot is anymore where you can just fully concentrate on that thing”

Rachael Healy is an award winning journalist and the current British Journalism Awards Journalist of the year for Arts and Entertainment.

Rachael is a freelance journalist working predominantly with The Guardian and the i newspapers and we talk about getting articles commissioned, from show reviews through to in-depth investigative reporting.

We also discuss the star rating systems of reviews, building a personal brand as well as her repeated focus in her writing on the financial impact of being an artist including the experience of performers at the fringe

Rachael Links

Rachael’s Best In Class article https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2024/feb/29/woke-tv-comedy-workshops-infuriating-right-wing-press 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/ohrhealy 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rachaelhealyjournalist/ 

Website: http://www.rachaelhealy.co.uk/ 

British Journalism Awards Winners: https://pressgazette.co.uk/press-gazette-events/british-journalism-awards-winners-2023/ 

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“...people who go into medicine, often it's not so much just pure science people, it's people who've got maybe a bit more of a broader interest range than your standard person who just wants to be a scientist or a mathematician or something like that. So I think often you find people going into it who've got a bit of a second interest, even at the point of sort of choosing what career they're going into.”

This episode is with Comedian Matt Hutchinson we talk about his experiences of the 2023 Edinburgh Fringe with his show ‘Hostile’ from promoting the show on Social Media and Flyering through to working with PR and Production companies.

We also discuss how being a comedian interacts with his day job as a Doctor and how he somehow manages to combine all this with studying for a research PhD as well as currently being in the middle of writing a book based on his experiences as a Doctor.

Matt Links

Twitter: https://twitter.com/hutch_up 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/matthutchinsoncomedy/ 

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Ahead of the Glasgow comedy festival which runs from the 13th to the 31st March I spoke to comedians Jay Lafferty and Kathleen Hughes two Scottish comedians who are performing at the festival. 

We talk about Kathleen’s experiences as a relatively newer comedian who after a two week run last year is currently preparing for her first full Edinburgh Fringe run in 2024.

We also discuss Jay’s experiences as a full time comedian, going on a nationwide tour with her show ‘Bahookie’ and how the Scottish comedy has changed and the supportive nature within the scene.

See Jay and Kathleen Live

Jay Lafferty - Bahookie at Glasgow Comedy Festival (29th March):

https://www.glasgowcomedyfestival.com/performances/jay-lafferty-bahookie-special-live-recording/ 

Bahookie On Tour:

https://gildedballoon.co.uk/bahookie/ 

Kathleen Hughes - Cryptid (WiP) at Glasgow Comedy Festival (24th March):

https://www.glasgowcomedyfestival.com/performances/kathleen-hughes-cryptid-work-in-progress/ 

Cryptid at Edinburgh Fringe:

https://tickets.edfringe.com/whats-on/kathleen-hughes-cryptid 

Jay

Website:https://www.watchthisspaceproductions.com/ 

Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/jayjaylaffs 

Joy Agenda Podcast: https://pod.link/1719574893 

Kathleen

Twitter: https://twitter.com/kathleenwho_ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kathleenwho_ 

The Humour Mill: https://www.humourmillglasgow.co.uk/ 

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Episode Photos:

Kathleen: https://www.instagram.com/_dunkan_/ 

https://www.instagram.com/tjstade/

“Finding out information about comedy, if you don't already know what you're looking for can be ridiculously overwhelming”

This episode I spoke to Zoë Paskett founder of LMAOnaise a website, newsletter and soon to be newspaper that covers some of the less mainstream areas of comedy.

The ethos of this podcast has always been that even if your art may not be driven by money, without the money it’s difficult to keep creating the art and so marketing matters and my chat with Zoë was a great example of this, creating a print version of something when even web journalism is collapsing is an ambitious aim. 

We discuss Zoë’s plans for the newspaper and her work setting up and promoting the crowdfunder along with her experiences as a journalist for publications such as the London Evening Standard and from running her weekly newsletter for the last three years as well as the value of curation when it comes to comedy.

LINKS

Crowdfunder for Newspaper

https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/p/help-lmaonaise-comedy-launch-a-print-newsletter/ 

Website:https://www.lmaonaisecomedy.com/ 

Instagram:  http://instagram.com/lmaonaisecomedy 

Threads: https://www.threads.net/@lmaonaisecomedy 

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"With the advent of social media and Myspace as was, we sort of got a bit of a following and we've been growing our audience ever since"

This episode is with Sheldon Southworth AKA Dickie Ticker from the band The Lancashire Hotpots.

The band's motto is “21st Century Folk for 21st Century folk” and have released albums including Never Mind the Hotpots and Achtung Gravy and have performed at festivals such as Glastonbury and Kendall Calling as well as touring the country and are currently on their Bisto Inferno tour.  

We talk about the challenges facing a live band in the current economic climate, promoting band both online and the various tools and techniques involved in selling tickets to live shows.

LINKS

Website: https://thelancashirehotpots.net/ 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/thehotpots 

Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/thelancashirehotpots/ 

Facebook: gb.facebook.com/thelancashirehotpots/">https://en-gb.facebook.com/thelancashirehotpots/ 

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/5ac41g3jUH9rBoe6zawiaB 

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thelancashirehotpots?lang=en 

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“It’s a romantic comedy with added sexy cowboys”

Eleanor Birdsall-Smith is producer of the sell-out Edinburgh Fringe show ‘Cowboys and Lesbians’ which is about to embark on a 3 week run at the Park Theatre in London and The Wardrobe Theatre in Bristol.

We talk about her background in TV, her Fringe experiences including the importance of reviews and the tactics of flyering as well as the impact of a name change to the show.

LINKS

Park Theatre London (Feb 21st - Mar 9th)

https://parktheatre.co.uk/whats-on/cowboys-and-lesbians 

Wardrobe Theatre Bristol (Mar 12th - Mar 15th)

https://thewardrobetheatre.com/livetheatre/cowboys-lesbians/ 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/CowboysPlay 

Instagram:  https://instagram.com/cowboysandlesbians 

TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@cowboysandlesbians 

Times 4* Review discussed in the episode:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cowboys-and-lesbians-at-edinburgh-festival-saddle-up-for-this-brilliantly-funny-teen-drama-66bkcpkx5 

Show Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fysK6vFtLj8 

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"Even though they took my songs, I still felt like a failure, and I did for the largest part of the last 10, 15 years. I felt like I failed at music"

Alexis talks about her experiences as a singer/songwriter, comedian and actress, about going viral on TikTok and her resurgence as a pop star 20 years on.

We talk about having songs she’s written being recorded by Kylie Minogue and Rachel Stevens, the impact being dropped by her record label had on her and her determination to make the most of the opportunity the second time around.

We also discuss Social Media, online promotion and the psychological impact chasing clicks has on your state of mind.

LINKS

Website: https://www.alexisstrum.com/ 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/alexisstrum  

Instagram:  https://instagram.com/alexisstrum 

TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@alexisstrumofficial 

Retropop Article about releasing the albums 20 years on:

https://retropopmagazine.com/alexis-strums-debut-album-addicted-finally-released-after-being-shelved-over-20-years-ago/ 

Alexis on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/49DJil4JyZdW8Upoilkfom 

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Kat Molesworth who as well well as having a huge amount of experience in digital marketing is event producer at Content is Queen who are running the International Women’s Podcast Festival which is taking place in London in October.

We talk about traditional offline promotion for podcasts, what makes engaging social content to drive activity to your podcast as well as discussing the festival and Kat’s aims for it in more detail.

There’s a load of other practical bits of advice from Kat throughout the episode including examples of podcasts that do things particularly well in a certain aspect of podcasting.

Kat

Website: https://www.katmolesworth.com/ 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/thatkat 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/thatkat 

Blogtacular Podcast: https://pod.link/1063884748 

Content is Queen

Website: https://contentisqueen.org/ 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/contentisqn 

Pitch your talk or panel idea for The International Women’s Podcast Festival:

https://festival.contentisqueen.org/speaker-applications 

Interview with Grace Andrews (Marketing Director for Diary of a CEO) on Callum McDonnell’s ‘Creator Playbooks’ podcast

YouTube: https://youtu.be/44gUHzuLb78 

Podcast: https://pod.link/1613319204 

Normal Gossip Podcast: https://pod.link/1597761181 

Bitter/Sweet Podcast: https://pod.link/1674678902 

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"I think life is bigger than AI. I don't think AI is bigger than life. That may be the most naïve thing anyone has ever said on the subject. We'll see."

Andy Stanton is an author best known for his ‘Mr Gum’ Children’s books and has written a book called Benny the Blue Whale: A Descent into Story, Language and the Madness of ChatGPT which is available in print and also as an audiobook with ChatGPT voiced by Nish Kumar. 

As you’ll hear from our talk this doesn’t mean he’s typed a simple prompt and then printed the results, rather it’s a fascinating look at language and a great lesson on what makes good writing by considering what ChatGPT can’t do as well as looking at what it can manage.

As well as the book, we discuss Andy’s long running podcast Ask The Nincompoops as well as not reading your reviews and the difficulties of promotion in a social media age.

LINKS

Book: publications.com/work/benny-the-blue-whale/">https://oneworld-publications.com/work/benny-the-blue-whale/ 

Audiobook: https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/Benny-the-Blue-Whale-Audiobook/B0CKM6WDLV 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/AndyStanton15 

Andy on the Failing Writers Podcast: https://www.failingwriterspodcast.com/episodes/episode/5137e57d/s3-ep20-how-to-write-a-book-using-chatgpt-andy-stanton 

Mr Gum Website: http://www.mrgum.co.uk/ 

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