What is it like to travel with a kid on long-haul journeys to Asia, from Singapore, to KL, to Taipei and more (and the secret bathrooms, which one would you choose?).  AF001, the Air France fragrance (only the French!). Should KLM talk to Korean about the new livery? (And where is the red? LH kept a Pantone code at least). The runways hidden in plain sight (we have one in Singapore, one in Switzerland). CDG T1 (again) shortcomings — compare that to the magic of Singapore Changi and the big bathtub plug at Jewel (Changi, where no one can hear your child scream!). Is Air Canada better than JAL?! (not everything coming out of Japan has unicorn status, you know). What is premium economy (a slightly better economy, or a business class minus, no airline seem to agree). When should service happen on long-haul flights? (Bad timing is everything). What on Earth is going on at Kuala Lumpur International Airport (there's a lot of dust on that Aerotrain).

We mentioned our friends at Plane Talking UK, here's how to listen/watch them

Happy flying!

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A decade on the air and in the air, thank you all for your loyalty (we don't offer Tier Points).

Loyalty is what we start with, as British Airways shakes the world of revenue based loyalty with a rather abrupt shift (meh it was coming, says Alex, whilst Paul defends BA), but what program should we now put our miles in?!

Alex flies to peak pollution Delhi with Virgin Atlantic, to meet his brothers (and his Attache brother, Greg). He then goes to New York via Helsinki with Finnair, an airline that wants you to believe a 330 is a 350, but that he'd fly again and again.

IFE privacy and self-consciousness, that's a thing (is it for you all you too?)

Paul finally narrates the pinnacle of air travel, the best First Class in the world (no contest!), 12 hours in supreme zero-gravity comfort aboard the Emirates 777 First (he touches all the buttons, creates a night club in the sky in one cabin, a hotel in another).

Is the middle seat the best option? You might need binoculars to believe it.

Again, thank you all for tuning in every time we release a show (including the crazy ones binge-listening to the entire catalogue of episodes!).

Happy flying until our next episode (When? Like at airports, patience is a virtue haha)

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A European flying tour from North America, a symphony of alcohol (with two specific colors), a flight sim in an airport (well, nearly), the Paris Olympics from the inside (Paul is jealous), the alternative timeline of CDG T1 and Concorde (we want to switch to it!), an appreciation for Ryanair (nope, we're not in another timeline). getting sea sick whilst taxiing (included in your expensive ticket), the tiny ground dots of Charles de Gaulle and Zurich (bring them back!), the dark underground link between Orly and Luton (ok, not really, but you'll get it), the fabulous Musée de l'air et de l'espace at Le Bourget (does it get any better than this?) — Vinod is back (and not only for the insane Spotify numbers he brings along).

Happy New Year everyone & Happy Flying!

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Two tales of adventurous (and at time turbulent) travels: Paul embarks on a long train ride to Ukraine, while Alex soars above the Himalayas.

One ventures into the heart of a conflict-stricken Kyiv, the other navigates the heights of Annapurna aboard a Ukrainian-built plane.

A blend of sobering exhilaration and uplifting challenges that come when traveling in unique and sometimes demanding circumstances — we were both taught lessons in resilience and perspective.

This could very well be our favorite episode ever.

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Alex tells us all about flying to Okinawa's Naha airport (via Tokyo), Hawaii (717s being flown like NYC cab drivers), the Philippines (that loop to Clarke airport), and more. We have one more Concorde to visit (next, a Millenium Falcon), we dream of Japanese airlines on-board experience (that "Italian" food, though?), we calculate the length of DXB concourses (it can be a long walk), we ponder the future of Manila airports (they'll end up with no less than THREE massive international airports), we wonder if selling guitars in an airport yields any results (Cebu has seen a lot of improvement though), we discuss legroom (bulkhead FTW), and admire Emirates' consistency (the new business class is the old business class?).

Here's Ed Parsons photo store, check it out: https://store.edparsons.com

More travels to come, more episodes to come (if Paul makes it back), but we won't promise when (SORRY!)

Happy travels!

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What's next for the aviation industry? The post-pandemic rejigging of air travel with less business travel, and more leisure travelers in the front (who want, like most of you, to experience the full array of premium travel), more often off-season. Will fares keep increasing (it's the economy, stupid!), the unstoppable rise of ancillary revenues (gotta keep those nice margins), and were airlines underpricing their miles up to the pandemic (Emirates believes so)? Where is the next aircraft, it seems neither Boeing nor Airbus has anything on the drawing board (the great Embraer might not dent the market, Comac on the other hand?), and Airbus softening's stance on the future of the 380 (the Emirates pressure could be working). What about single pilot aircrafts (touchy subject!). Greener tech for greener aircraft, and the question of incentives versus punishment (do you know where the term carbon footprint come from?) — and more from the great Hakan Yilmaz (Paul, meanwhile, just spends his time quoting Tim Clark).

Everything you wanted to know about the intricacies of flight planning (choose your wind provider right!). Did you know what purpose does the seemingly abandoned T1 LHR serve? (the guys at the new IST could really teach a thing or two to Heathrow…). BA Fly no more (well, you'll see), and European Single Sky not yet (or ever?!). Flying down under to Brisbane and Auckland, and an Air New Zealand who punches above its weight. And we should really do an episode about the best business seats for tall people (the "old" Turkish one is fabulous for that, we both agree).Oh, and what's your favorite aerobatic display team? (A loaded question, Paul goes for the lunatics).

Follow Hakan on X/Twitter: @LAFlyr

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Layovers will return ;-)

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Ever wondered about the life of a flight attendant (and ground crew)? This is the episode for you. Paul welcomes his good friend Vinod for an episode full of fun aviation and travel stories — a long episode, with the laughs taking quite some of that length.

From Edmonton to Vancouver, via Calgary (and its keys!), the many airports he worked at (Paul still hasn't been to Canada), Martinair, British Airways, Air Berlin, or WestJet, amongst the many airlines he worked for (and in a world of crew camaraderie around the world, BA really seems like a big family).

Is there something about the uniform that transcends trends? And Vinod's secret to treat cabin crew well (Paul is inspired).

The experience of turbulences in the air (and yes, we discuss that fateful Singapore Airlines flight), but also the video game of driving a jet bridge.

Can you get Covid from an aircraft wing: flying during the pandemic to (and working at) Tokyo 2020 (NRT, a game of chairs) and Beijing 2022 (PEK, calcifying under sanitizing spray).

Does each airline have a specific smell, or is that a neurotic avgeek thing? (dried fish seems like a bad omen though).  

Vinod attempts to convince Paul that Frankfurt and Heathrow are great airports, and he nearly succeeds (his definition of LHR is just the best, and Paul softens on FRA), and we (kinda) agree on Singapore's carpet.

And many more stories (Vinod's most memorable flights are quite something). 

Listen to Vinod Viswalingam's podcast (hosted along with the great Geoff Dahl), Seat 1A:

Seat1A on Apple Podcasts

Seat1A on Spotify

Seat1A (website with more links)

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It's Alex and Paul, and it's another Alex (you've met her in 133!). She tells us all about BeOnd, the new all business class airlines that flies ex-EasyJet (!) 319s (!) to get you to the Maldives (did she enjoy the plane more than the beach?!). Humane versus non-humane low cost carriers: a new definition for IATA? The MAX flying challenge, or how to overcome the unhealthy relationship with a plane. Airport design and signage, another potential unhealthy relationship (it shouldn't be that hard!). Backpack travel, the way to avoid being made to check your carry-on. Make airport buses great again: do not put stickers on windows, do not darken the windows too much (WE WANT TO SEE THE APRON VIEWS!). Wifi naming: has anyone who implemented them actually flown an aircraft? Etihad 3.0, a new growth chapter (there will be doors in the forthcoming EY business class, but Paul does not think doors are very necessary). The new AUH is gorgeous, and a success: was its design process so long thought that it led to some quirks though? (whilst the path to the Etihad lounge is awkward, the delicious design of the gates is a win!). Lavatories breaks with the airline wireless headphones (and PLEASE add green noise—rain and thunder—as a feature on IFEs!!!).

Follow Alex on LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/alexandravukolova

Listen to her podcast, Sky Lounge: Apple Podcasts, Spotify 

And since Paul mentions it, here's the very good Air Show podcast (weekly and short, the opposite of this pod haha): Apple Podcasts, Spotify

See you in 2-3 weeks for another episode (hint: closer to where Paul has never been)

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Paul is joined by Paolo, one his best friends, to compare notes on a big tour of Cambodia and Vietnam (Paul flew to Cambodia, Paolo flew to Vietnam and Cambodia) with many airports, and airlines along the way (not sure about the water on-board a Cambodia Angkor Air). Paul had his worst fly ever (it was no fault of Etihad, just his own!!) and circles the 380 lounge table forever like an animal, whilst Paolo has the most epic security check experience at Sihanouk International Airport (he's a giant, after all). Cambodia is building huge airports, the future Phnom Penh (still in construction), and the just-opened massive Siem Reap International which we both were pretty staggered with. Are turbulences getting worse, and should the pilot give more explanation when we hit them (Paolo compares them as being rock cradled to sleep in business class!). Does landing at SGN remind you a little of Kai Tak ("dodging the washing lines across the apartments"). Paul and Paolo disagree on BKK, but, yeah, a bit of window cleaning would be good (but the Thai government agrees with Paul, it needs a refurb!). Do you really want to board a Wamos Air? - Cambodia Tuk Tuk driver in Siem Reap, Angkor Wat: Mr Kat, tuktukcambodia.com

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Is Emirates low key encouraging membership to the high mile club? (And how Alex and Layovers saved Paul's Emirates First upgrade. The controller goes "oh that sucks", or why Alex keeps listening to ground whilst traveling (but he always gets the last bag delivery ever). Lounge bouncers (not exactly, but lounge double dipping is a thing). Going against the jet stream when it reaches record speeds (and against an unbelievably bad customer representative at JFK). Wife or work wife, who gets lounge access? Plant-based food choices are increasing in quality, Emirates saw the trend early (and why some flight attendants have had enough of special meals). BA is investing billions, but could they spare some to fix their Manage My Bookings on the app? No more miles or status for non-direct bookings, a new trend?

Happy flying to you all!

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Qatar'd? No, that new Al Mourjan Lounge at Doha is stunning — one thing we can't say about that RAK one.Turkish'd? Not really, when a downgrade gets you full emergency exit rows — though that 333 seat made Paul act like an animal.Boeing has gone full MAX for its windows openings (ok, ok, poor one, but come on Boeing, do better!) — the new 350-1000 goes for a dimmable shade instead.The JAL 350 crash, a miracle for many (but not all), a testament to the crew, the industry, that aircraft, and Airbus.Alex and Paul agree, the best eye masks stays the Emirates F one (the previous version!).Go around grinning? YES.

And Happy New Year to all (this was recorded on Jan 31, just in time!)

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Alex tells us all about his return to Hong Kong, with Cathay setting a new gold standard in IFE over Emirates (Greg flew China Southern, and, errr, well). Paul flies the all business class 321neo from La Compagnie from Orly to Newark (road traffic was key to that story, but traffic there is none to board, how crazily fast is that, kudos La Compagnie!). Choose your BA seat on Jordanian (neat trick), but it might come with a free infant for you. After 27 years, Qatar Airways replaces Al Baker (would some call him the Jeremy Clarkson of the airline industry?). Can reward/award finders help you spend air miles faster than they devaluate? The biometric airport experience is upon us, and AI is rising (but robots do strike in London when they drive trains). Is British Airways' customer service seeing a renaissance after having listened to Layovers? (at least they're investing quite massively in it, hopefully in IT -capital letters- too). Will we see boarding group -2 arise (group 0 is here)? ExTime, beautiful third party lounges thanks to a je ne sais quoi (the French flair surely). The bucolic murals at that -4 walkway.

We did travel quite a lot, pardon the delay in getting this one out. We'll be back in December!

Happy flying, all.—

Paul is on Instagram, Threads, and Twitter.Alex is on Instagram, and Twitter.Layovers is on Instagram, and Twitter. 

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So small, cozy, cute, a very special airport, that was Tegel, not BER: can the finally (nearly) finished Berlin Brandenburg measure up to the "poor but sexy" German capital? At least the cleverly named lounges have an even cleverer backdoor (and, hey, it's not a poor bus station like Schoenfeld).

Bundling the unbundling: a (great) rant by Alex (Hunter, but Vukolova chimes in, and Paul got confused having two Alex on the show). Do the Adidas Lufthansa sneakers give you extra status (you can now buy them, unlike the staff limited editions that Paul bought off from an employee a few years ago, in order to pair them with the Family Mart socks he just got). Condor offers you a branded beer (another Brewdog airline brew!), but also booking your …overhead bin?? (Alex tested it, and we look at everything that could go wrong). JetBlue and the inaugural massive dog. The admirable journey out of fear of flying.Air Astana is amazing, Almaty airport not so much (the former gives you amenity kits, and slippers, in economy, for 3 hours!! The latter does not have free water in its lounge WTF).

Thanks a million to Alex Vukolova for having joined us (and for having waited FOREVER to be on our podcast).

You should follow Alex on LinkedIn (she posts great avgeek stuff!): http://linkedin.com/in/alexandravukolova

On Instagram (Paul messed up her username all this time!!): https://www.instagram.com/avixalex/

Give a listen to her aviation podcast, Sky Lounge: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/sky-lounge-podcast/id1678045129

And here's the Ladies Beyond Flying group she mentioned: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12451302

(See, there are links in our show notes for once).Apologies for the audio quality, we had to work around a ton of glitches, and preferred recording than postponing.

See you in the next one! Happy flying!

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Paul tries multiple Italian airports, Alex finally visits the new Istanbul (and flies Turkish for the first time!). The passport blowing border official trick (it doesn't work better than the Super NES cartridge blowing). BA will soon introduce water bottles the size of mini bar vodkas (at least it seems so). The Magical Finnish hippos, another first in a long line of firsts by Finnair. The perma-scaffolding of a rather joyful Birmingham airport. Italian really do duty free differently (from currency to cars). Alex visits what is easily the biggest third party lounge he's ever seen in his life. Tom Cruise runs over the new Midfield Terminal at Abu Dhabi (and of course, WE ARE TOP GUN MAVERICK). When the fast track is in the lounge. Creatively naming the airline Wifi (send us your favorites). Imperial Airways lives on (on the IFE). Luton LOL. Do airlines realize people usually need to have a bag when they fly? Are Ryanair pilots of drinking age? Don’t ask Apple Maps for Bologna Airport. 

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Combini, tamago sando, Skyliner, vending machines, ekiben, baseball Suica cards, yes we discuss Japan, where Alex was earlier this summer. And yes we talk (err, Alex talks) about air travel too, British Airways, Southwest, Hawaiian, ANA, and, drumroll, Zipair — not in that order, and with hops at London Heathrow, San Jose, San Francisco, Tokyo Narita, Osaka Itami, and some shinkansens (and lots of Pocari Sweat, Alex is a fan, Paul isn’t), on a few 787s, a 777 (should have been a 380, but …BA), a 737, a MAX (and Alex has thoughts on that one), and a 717 (a great beat up commuter bus!).

A new acronym for BA, Belated Airways (are they ever on time these days?). JAL used to advertise: we don’t economize in economy, so what about their long haul low cost ZipAir, the “new basic airline”, do they economize? And would you ditch your luggage completely, and rent your clothes at destination, for the duration of your trip? Jerks being jerks, but, really, do you need to complain for hours to no end (aka, the rise of disruptive passengers, Alex had one, could have been two). ANA domestic is like flying United in the 90s, golf highlights included, only announcing turbulences are coming in exactly 30 seconds. Would you rather be clocking in and out of lounges, max duration 30 minutes, or looking at nothing but the Pacific for 10 hours? The beer robot at lounges, the perfect good bye to Japan (or is it the soothing sound of Live ATC?). The two dings, the ominous two dings, they will make robots of people. 

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Kyle Potter, Executive Editor at Thrifty Traveler, all-around awesome(ly smart) dude, Hello Kitty enthusiast (well, it's that EVA Air flight, you'll see!), and (very) long time Layovers listener and friend, tells us all about why MSP is the best thing ever, like everything in Minnesota — but also whether cheap travel is still possible in the current era of airfare inflation (yes!), whether passenger rights will ever be a thing in the US (maybe), whether boarding groups will ever be abandoned (forget it). We debate the wilderness where having no status means real freedom (that status, the warm blanket you're sure you need, right?), the crazy valuations of US loyalty programs (and airlines wanted to spin them off? HOW WOULD THEY MAKE MONEY lol, it's as if they're banks that happen to own planes), the devaluation of those programs (non-travel Covid has something to do with it), the importance of alliances and joint ventures in the current air travel era. And yes, for once, we touch upon the world of air miles programs a bit more, and its nearly MLM-esque ecosystem in the USA. As Kyle is a Delta fan (and captive!), we ask him: Why are they so good (that padding!), and how is that new Delta One seat (hint: we're all aligning in saying doors aren't really something we value).Oh, and ORD doesn't get a lot of love, LOL.  

Nearly two hours of great fun, whilst learning quite a bit (Alex and Paul learnt a lot).

You can follow Kyle on Twitter (please do):https://twitter.com/kpottermn

His writings are on:https://thriftytraveler.com

Of note, he wrote about the EVA Air Hello Kitty flight he took here:https://thriftytraveler.com/reviews/flights/15-hours-eva-air-hello-kitty/

and a great guide on how to find cheap travel via Google Flights:https://thriftytraveler.com/guides/google-flights/

Layovers will return in August (when Alex does). 

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We flew to Geneva to record an episode of Attaché (now on YouTube, link below), so how were our flights, and what did we think of the airport (the new C-Gates are excellent, the time at immigration not always). Does too much info add unnecessary travel stress? (Aka Flighty is Paul's IFE of choice in lounges). Is Covid wear and tear a thing? Some aircraft interiors look older than they should. Dublin airport can be frustrating, but it's pretty much forgiven when you can see one of the most famous airplanes in the world next to you. The 380 is an absolute winner in those times of constraints, the 777X could be too (come on, when???), but its new window dimming is what we'll have to settle for now. The new security machines are awesome, unless you shoot film (yes, you know, rolls of film in cameras, the youth won't know what we're talking about), and a photographer friend has some update on that front. Some LCY & Cityflyer love, but "that stupid goddamn piece of crap building that I'm sure is really important to the operation of the airport blocks the view" (HAHAHAHAHA). We both sing in unisson: BA is improving. Undercover flight attendant CEO, whilst Starlux's saves the day (but might get a fine). Did passengers gain weight during Covid? We have the answer (for Europe at least). Apple Vision Pro, the new IFE (Vomit Pro or not?). Remembering Brian Shul.

Lots more stories, from Japan to terminal pubs (morning beer anyone?).

And whilst we always forget to link stuff in those show notes, for sure go watch Attaché with Alex and Paul:

https://youtu.be/0z4pNTXEN3U

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Do you have a number? The saga of Alex trying to beat boarding time at Lisbon (you won't believe he, of all people, made that mistake). A completely charming SWISS cheese board on-board (and cows in the Zurich airport train). Etihad 2.0 are quietly great, a tasteful experience we appreciate (and flying over the Arabian Gulf is a sight to be seen), plus they're now about making money (err, shouldn't it have been the case since the start?). The "Etihad Lounge, The House of the Name of the House of the Lounge of Etihad and Other Airlines that are associated with us, but not really, and we are a good lounge, Lounge" is no more, but Alex isn't sure where he was anyway. A prescient Careem driver takes Alex to the Midfield Terminal, a mirage in a Star Wars movie (will it finally open this December??), but for the moment, the 1970s airport stays your only choice (T3 was opened in 2009, but feels way older). Saudi Arabia is launching a second flag carrier, and another airline, and expansion of airports, and like wow. Floating at 40'000 feet in silence (but with Flightradar). A new A380 UK-based carrier, are they for real? A lounge within a lounge, but it's Louis Vuitton. Super Mario Bros Warp Zones in Madrid.

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Alex gets lost at JFK T8, only to encounter crazy turbulences over the Atlantic (a future worsening trend). But how did he get there? Finally testing what Paul did in 2021, the Mint Studio — a hope for the future of long haul narrow bodies. Airfare prices are way up from 2019 (more than inflation!), is that temporary, or what prices will be, and should always have been (that's the opinion of AirAsia's founder), so, please, JetBlue, don't Norwegian it! When you call BA, you will get quoted different fees and taxes every time, just keep calling (but who calls in 2023??). Also, DO YOU KNOW WHAT AIRLINE YOU WORK FOR?

Our proposal: play musical chairs in lounges and every five minutes, you have to get up and give somebody else your seat (just keep the ceiling intact, unlike in Paul's sound studio).  

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How is it we had never actually done MAD as an episode title? This ends today, however the mad MADrid dash from T4S to T4 never does. Alex has lots to say about BA and it's …not great (he's not alone to think like this). Paul calls it, the better London airport is definitively Gatwick (stop being a wannabe posh by preferring LHR). Lufthansa introduces a grand new First Class, and a super complex Tetris business class with 14+ options (Swiss introduces the same, but in bordeaux). Will Dolomiti be folded into ITA (the ever growing Lufthansa Group realm of the European skies). Emirates is the Apple of airlines, you might not love them but they offer incredible consistency at massive scale, truly admirable (DXB could do with a bit of a refresh though). You know what, you can fly the 747-400 to Palma (BE QUICK, BEFORE THE 744 ERA ENDS).

We mentioned (and promised to link) those two:

• The worst airport in the world (by Jo Ellison, in the FT, paywall possible, I'M SORRY, JO, FOR MISNAMING YOUR LAST NAME!!!!), and
• The DISGRACEFUL State of British Airways (by Nonstop Dan, on YouTube).

See you again for 127, and, in the meanwhile, please give us any feedback on Twitter or Instagram  (and Apple Podcasts if you're inclined to give us a nice review).

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The airport you think is overrated, the airport you like, the airport you love, the airport you feel yourself in, the airport you need to visit — play the airport game with us (and feel free to tweet us your answers!). The new Air France lounge at CDG T2F is beautiful, as can be CDG …when it works (you'll probably need to taxi on a country drive to get there haha). The new lounges at JFK T8, the new of BA in New York, feel like a success (and clever naming!). The end of the 747 production line triggers memories for the both of us (a crazy typhoon for Alex, a cramped Combi for Paul, a sense of place for both). A renewed joie de vivre by flying Air France (is Transavia the legitimate child of KLM though?). Flying the OG Norwegian, riding the good old Acela, and a French guillotine in the 777.

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Friend of the show, and very long time listener (since episode 1!), Hakan Yılmaz, aka @LAFlyr on Twitter, grew up wanting to go early at the airport to see the planes, and collect avgeek paraphernalia, and never stopped being a kid, by still going early to the airport to see the planes, and a career that led him to American Airlines, Turkish Airlines, Virgin Atlantic, Atlas, etc., with millions of miles under his belt, and tons of stories to share — from the admirable rise of Turkish Airlines (fascinating SAS story on the invention of the hub and spoke model), to the celebrity stories at Virgin (do you carry money when traveling but nothing else? Or lots of LV luggage instead? Reach out to us!), from over-complicating airline operations (which airline is it, do you reckon?) to the uncomplicated life as loyalty programs free agents (the three of us are becoming so, though it's a mental fight to let go), we geek out and rant and laugh, we get the in and outs of LAX (that's Hakan's pun), and thank you all for still listening to us in 2023.

Follow Hakan on Twitter: @LAFlyr

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Ed Parsons, the Google Maps guy, is our guest today. He's heard the Concorde prototype noise as a kid, flown on the Concorde before it got retired, explored all the Concordes in existence around the world since — a true fan — and we discuss it all, from the history to the conspiracy theories, to a certain nostalgia about a future that's now in the past.  

He is also a GGL, Gold Guest List, the (almost) top tier British Airways status, which gives him access to the exclusive Concorde Rooms (yes, there's more than one), and we learn about more the extra perks, whilst we discuss the not-exactly-great state of current BA, and Heathrow.  

Ed tells us about the many Air Shows he's toured (and photographed!), and of the amazing BRR beach airport (Otter it is, but no Maldives temperatures). Thank you SO MUCH, Ed!

You can find Ed on:https://www.edparsons.comhttps://twitter.com/edparsons

And check his photographs on:https://photos.edparsons.comhttps://www.instagram.com/edparsons/

Thank you all for your graciousness in 2022, we love having you as listeners.Happy New Year, and see you in 2023!! 

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Alex has a joyful experience to Oslo with Norse Atlantic Airways (he flies to Stockholm too, the Nordics know how to handle snow, whilst the UK clearly doesn't). Finland sees record traffic to meet Santa Claus, whilst Air Greenland celebrates a new 330neo. France says NO short haul flights, the EU says YES to mobile networks in flight, the UK says NO MORE to liquid security limits. Doha opens a massive new airport garden, says Singapore stole their idea. Can someone remember Florence Airport, or Pisa Airport, for us? (The Pisa lounge is miserable, no need to tell Paul). Is there a fast track trick at Heathrow transfers?  The revolution: a lounge with a nacho cheese dispenser!!Be excellent to each other.

(We covered Oslo OSL in episode 032, and Stockholm ARN in episode 99)

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"What are you going to Saudi Arabia for?" asked the puzzled flight attendant — Paul was flying to Jeddah, to then drive 8 hours, to reach one of the places of his dreams: the Nabataeans tombs of Al-'Ula. From sand to copper, the massive new Jeddah terminal is impressive, and big, and really big, and has the highest airport tower in the world, and they even built an …aquarium (!?)

No champagne, broken seat and flimsy IFE — is Emirates still what it used to be? (Yes, and no).

An X never marks the spot, how travel is about dealing with ambiguity too (and …“we named the dog Indiana”). 

(Yes, we talk about the World Cup too)

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Alex needed to be in Quebec City, so he obviously flew to Montreal — that made him try Air Transat (is that a controversial airline, Canadian friends?). Our friend Greg sadly never got to fly WestJet however …and Paul still hasn't been to Canada. Qatar is getting ready for a massive amount of daily shuttle flights for the FIFA World Cup (1.5 million fans expected, they're a country of barely 3m!). IAG wants Avios to go beyond BA and QR, but would any other airline be really interested? No AirTags allowed: Lufthansa wants to be left alone losing your luggage. Virgin and Alaska are fighting over a trademark that isn't being used (huh?). Virgin does a Upper First class with the Retreat Suite on the 330-900neo, a perfect bed for Presidents and Prime Ministers ;-)

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Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad, three cities, three cultures, and three airports that correspond them well — Paul flies in and around Pakistan (flying out was not a given on one of those trips!). The retro liveries of PIA and QR. Japan opens up on October 11th, ticket prices skyrocket, also as the USD rises against pretty much every other currency, making flying more expensive to many. The NOTAMs for the Queen passing (LGW went full radio silent!). United and Emirates integrate, and Virgin finally joins SkyTeam. Alex gets plusgraded to Upper Class (just after a status match, HOW DOES HE DO IT?!)

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No, the other La Paz — the Southern/Baja California Alex Hunter 2022 Tour, with Megan as a VERY supporting avgeek act (aka Alex is the supporting act, Megan is the star, but you all knew that already). Emirates refreshes its fleet on a crazy tight clockwork upgrade schedule. Air France reveals its PORTE FRANCAISE* business seats (*French door). Lufthansa loses a star, and its general shine in a summer of strikes and chaos (those Philippines Airlines aircrafts won't be enough, guys). Don't try to smuggle McMuffins in Australia, even if you had to wait hours to no end in Bali. No more fuel after United taxies EWR for 9.5 hours (is that worse or better than Vueling?). Yes, yes, Paul knows, it was a 350 on the pic he posted on Instagram, not a Dreamliner (he's going to hear about this until the end of time, won't he?).

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Alex lives and sweats the travel chaos, trying to get to Valencia with Vueling (what was he thinking?!) with an epic (FAIL) journey that ended up with Easyjet saving the day. Paul develops some Apple AirTag anxiety. The A380 is back with a vengeance, though Tim Clark wishes he had a two-engine 380, or a 350-2000, or anything BIG (meanwhile his ticket prices are soaring faster than aircrafts). COVID is kinda back too (it never left) but the travel world won't use that C-word to not jinx it all. Alitalia pilots mistake JFK for Naples at rush hour. No more BA livery in South Africa after the demise of Comair, but BA has more issues to think about for now (ground personnel strikes, fuel delivery strikes, and more strikes, on top of staff shortages). Also, in which country is Corsica?Enjoy nearly two hours of #avgeek stories between Alex and Paul — not sure when we'll record next, Alex being in holidays, but hopefully sometime before end-July. 

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Brace brace brace, travel chaos ahead — from staff shortages, to strikes, to supply chain issues, to a global recession, it's going to be a messy year (and more) ahead. The mess will however make for an interesting wet-lease global puzzle (Mel Air for Air Nostrum as Iberia??), and the experience of using buses instead of airplanes (not sure how we think about that one). Tim Clark is becoming increasingly impatient with the ever-expanding delays at Boeing, and Al Baker wishes he didn't have to put the 380s back in service (that makes us happy!). Alex sleeps his way to Bogota and back, and tells us all about flying to Medellin. Also, did you know there's a 747 parked in Valencia airport that has racked up over 200 million Euros in fines? And that there's a Pret Index?

The turbulence forecast website is: https://turbli.com

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A Round the World conversation with our friend Mark Vanhoenacker for the launch of his new book 'Imagine a City, A Pilot Sees the World', a sequel to 'Skyfaring'. We talk about our love for cities, the small ones of our birth, the big ones of our dreams, the ones visited once (even only at the airport), the ones we feel home at, the ones that shine bright, afar from an aircraft window or from a walk on their streets. We even geek out on public transport (including the Yamanote Line, whilst Alex isn't sold on the Elizabeth Line haha). Mark also tells us about moving from his beloved 747 to the 787 (we ask: why that one?), and the strange feeling of flying through the pandemic (for British Airways, if you didn't know it already).

We also go through some fire alarm (thrice) and decide to stay put, after all, it had been 2.5 years Alex and Paul hadn't seen each other in person, and nearly 5 (!) years since we had last had a beer with Mark (yes, we went to a pub after this recording).

Learn more about the Imagine A City on Mark's website: http://markvanhoenacker.com/imagine-a-city

And buy the book on Amazon, Waterstones and in any good bookstore — it's a must for travelers, we both can attest to that! (US friends, you'll have to wait until July 2022!).

Listen to our previous conversations with Mark:

060 to Nairobi NBO040 to London Heathrow LHR

And follow Mark on Twitter: @markv747

See in our next episode, whenever that is (Alex goes to Medellin, Paul to Karachi, Lahore, and Corsica, but 116 MDE it will be, PAUL IS VERY JEALOUS).

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From sunset to sunrise: Virgin Atlantic to the Caribbean and back, Paul is finally no longer a Virgin virgin. Flying from SLU over St Lucia, its Pitons, in an Airbus Helicopter (well, Aerosptiale). The (mysterious) Cathay white liveries. The 777X is delayed for the 500th time. Who's flying the Air France 777?

Also, Paul has an echo, Alex has trees being trimmed — just pretend those sound artefacts are aircraft engines :-)

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Emirates, Emirates and more Emirates, in First, in Business, on 380s or 777s. To Male and seaplanes for Alex, to Dubai with a blank at deplaning for Paul. But also some SWISS (the savior), some BA (when it's not cancelled), the new longest route in the world (who's currently flying it??), the QR Airbus saga, Athens airport (Alex, not Paul, this time!) and more. And yes, Alitalia, because it was never going to be ITA, wasn't it?

Thank you all for still listening to us, everyone, we REALLY do appreciate all the love.

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We're back, Alex having taken the time to hack  a 747 seat belt sign, Paul having played too much Airportle. We talk about the non-reclining business class from Finnair (it's divise, but we think it might be a winner), the new Qatar Q suite which isn't a Q suite, and the big winner of this pandemic world: premium economy (non-operable seats notwithstanding haha). Whilst there's no love between Airbus and QR, there is love in our show: Paul with the JetBlue Mint Studio (but where's the butter!??), and Alex with, well, just listen to the show (hint: he flew to SFO for 3 hours and back). And much more, for nearly two hours (post-credits included).

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Alex tours the US, from Denver to San Francisco to Las Vegas to Oakland to Hawaii, and gets to experience his first 737MAX, and the Great Pacific (aka lyrically talking about ZOA KZAK Oakland Air Route Traffic Control Center). We discuss the state of travel in this weird era, not yet post-Covid, still pandemic-ish but not yet endemic, a weird middle where international flying is depressed, but with clearer skies ahead for some.

We're back (again!),  still in a live format, thanks everyone for your kind comments since our last recording, you're the BEST!

We mentioned Sherpa, the tool to learn about travel restriction: https://apply.joinsherpa.com/travel-restrictionsAnd this book, Pacific, by Simon Winchester, about the Pacific Ocean: http://www.simonwinchester.com/pacific

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Alex gets cancelled (not him, the flight!). Duty free to nowhere (and no good pricing anyway). No kidnap fee, a new product by Ryanair. Plague terminal at LHR. Amber, the color of confusion. Genomics quarantine. Digital health visas (aka Covid passports, what a silly name). The travel bubble that refuses to happen. BOOM, our supersonic hopes, the PR reality. The timing of corporate travel taking off. Chicken broth cocktail (try it!).

Recorded live, no edits, with a pinch of static (but hey, adequate for an airplane-like PA experience).

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Alex outsmarts a diversion, using all the on-air WiFi. Paul talks Scrabble (he clearly spent too much time on the ground).Flights to nowhere and airplane food to your door are not for us, even if it's BA First.2 Boeing 2 Airbus, Pandemic Drift.ITA, Italy's Troublesome Arrangement (we've come up with a better acronym in the episode).The Singapore Airlines 380 First STEAMPUNK experience, before all the 380s disappeared.

Recorded live, no edits, aka "podcast vérité" (or whatever you call Paul being too lazy to edit this).

The episode is 2 hours, folks, press Pause for a Kit Kat.

(DIVERSION isn't an IATA airport code, we googled it for you ;-))

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Paul and Alex meet again. They haven't seen each other in a year.Recorded live, no edits, no music, no notes.Mentioned in the show: Seat 1A podcast, episode 038, with Paul

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Flight 106. The 2020 Virus Crash, the world is shutting down, no one is flying — this could become the biggest downturn ever in aviation history and perhaps the biggest global recession since World War II (we certainly do not hope so, we all need to beat this damn Covid-19!). Our thoughts are with all the people in the wider travel industry. Tons of airlines are now at risk around the globe, with bankruptcies and bailouts a certainty, following absolutely massive drops in demand, insane border closures (those are accelerating, and it's only the start), routes suspensions at an unprecedented scale, forced quarantines, fear and uncertainty. But hey, come on, we have good upbeat stories for you (airline bunk beds are a thing!), flight reviews (that turbulent landing!), and, as always, a good banter. Cheer up, keep healthy — we will get through this.

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Flight 105. Everything you wanted to know (or not know) about the coronavirus (aka Covid19, Sars2, or World War Z) and its short-term effects on the world of air travel — from the hassles to the precaution to think about.

Followed by the fan episode, with longtime listeners Elizabeth, Ed & Dan. Two out of three agree FRA is a disaster (not Elizabeth haha). The Heathrow volunteer program. The battle of the travel apps (and the bizarre TripIt strategy, and UX, as Dan knows very well!). Do you want to win a Dreamliner? Can the BA 350 fly really long routes? SWISS introduces an airline …scent (WTF). American Google translate (and we were hosted at Google, thank you Ed!!!). Ed has seen the future: a robot barista! Someone's been at Southend airport (Elizabeth!). Is there such a thing as too close a livery between airlines? Business premium (no that's not First!) on the Lufthansa 777X. Saving private FlyBe. Willie Walsh leaves IAG. And more avgeekery!

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Flight 104. The cheese cubes and hummus episode, with Doug Zschoche, aka OfficerWayFinder: everything you ever wanted to know about why flyers love Delta so much. What it is to fly the KC-10, the flying gas station, and to play with flight simulators (the serious ones!) around the US. Who owns the window? Airbus goes 787 dimming, and pulls a book (too many scandals?). A 737 MAX update, from revelations, crazy quotes to management reshuffle (what will come first: the re-certification or BER actually opening?). The future of alliances (not disappearing, but there are other ways). KLM retires its 747 and Qatar goes train (buses will be the way to go in the US). Delta introduces Iron Man, a multi-view screen at DTW, some jet fuel over schools, and promises more flexibility. The A220 will get stretched (900? 1000??), though no single pilot planes are on the horizons. Paul chose the wrong lounge at MSP (yes, he actually did go!), thanks to Doug for letting him know. LISTEN AND SUBSCRIBE TO THE NEXT TRIP PODCAST (seriously, they release faster than we do). Also, this is our 5th anniversary, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING SO LOYAL ALL THOSE YEARS, EVERYONE.

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Flight 099. Airways, the board game & softball, an avgeek game. Food galore, from the AirMos burger manual to the LHR AA chorizo hot dog, to the not-really-parisian Admirals baguette. UA Polaris confusion and AA absent service (ok, more like hit-and-miss): Paul and Alex compare their US travels (there's also AeroMexico, JetBlue, and Paul flies the longest possible AA route with a pajama). From windows shades (down) to wearing shades at facial boarding (and we debate facial recognition at airports around the world and how we feel about it all). Is the US mobile passport worth it? How to spot you're in a 757: the fierce take off, and interior pieces falling off. Paul has his best flight since we started recording, on Qatar in a Q Suite, and then gets baffled by an epic customer service delight in Doha. What would you do with 28 million, buy the Japanese Air Force One 747 of fly the new ANA seats (with a MASSIVE HUGE SCREEN) continuously for the rest of your life? Stockholm ARN secrets: the underground lake that warms and cools the airport, and the transfer trick between T5 and T2. Betsy is back in a very cool beer can.

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Flight 098. Shinkansen Gran Class, Four Seasons Mexico and Popeye Chicken sandwich, are we still an aviation podcast? The Eagle's Nest at LAX. Aer Pluto Lingus. SFO goes stupid with plastic. The 777x decompressed explosively. The 737 MAX is still wingless. Alex gets BA at the top of their game for an almost-diverted flight. NRT gets e-gates and Tokyo will get aircrafts over it (point your finger at HND). Qatar insists on business buses. Norwegian could get WOWd. WOW is reborn by the way of a Le Carre enigma. Paul finally flies AA, loves the B&O headphones. ANA goes BONX (and Alex goes ANA). Delevingne coffee at Heathrow. AA illogical re-re-refits. We meet listeners, thank you so much everyone (and for your patience!). Extraordinary times in Hong Kong, at HKG and for Cathay. Is Detroit DTW our #1 US airport? A magnificent Livermore Fest.

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Flight 097. The TWA hotel is everything we wanted. Long haul narrowbodies, a new old debate. USB-A versus USB-C, a new new debate (we just want good power!). Delta goes all in for good economy food, the US goes all in for the Open Skies (fifth freedoms, please!!). The cool Virgin Pride flight. The not very cool alone-in-the-dark-forgotten-by-Air-Canada experience. The under water 747 (and a few others to dive into, pun intended). The Brussels airport Stella, the 747 Microsoft simulator cockpit (that's one option), the PW2000 engine BBQ. American retires its MD80 and Qantas goes domestic for the end of its 747s. The cheap ERJs and the gone CRJ. What is the S in A321S (not SSSS, that's another story). The new Istanbul has Segway wheelchairs and some surprising live indoor mapping help. Uber chooses Melbourne for its VTOL trials (no FREE-something stupid rebrand) and MEL goes 3 runways (with a wind situation). Singapore extends the A380, but Air France will not (AT ALL). The passing of Continental (this time for good), and the passing of the father of Airbus (what a man, what a legacy!).

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Flight 096. Emirates fleet rejigging, 787 trashing, and basic business. The airport Lambo is nicer than the new Air Force One. What's in a name, MAX or no MAX, and other Boeing decisions. IAG steals the Paris Air Show PR. The A321XLR is amongst us. After beers and whisky, BA goes sparkling. What does Embraer actually stands for (it's a fun one). Space Jet gets a mystery sale. Do you need a door in your seats? Qantas retires its 747, pushes the 380 to its end. The Sunrise 4th zone, after the cabin, cockpit and lavatories, it's not a cargo nightclub. The LHR expansion finally revealed (for 2070 surely). A Turkish seat malfunction (the switches are amazing). The bespoke Airbus lettering (made by hand?). Germany blocks Norway (well, a Norwegian 737 MAX, haha). Lufthansa will also price its business seats. SkyTrax announces its 457th awards of the year (Qatar and Singapore are on top). A new way to enjoy Cathay First. The new IST is a big bet but impresses.

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Flight 095. EVA bakes pizza. Finnair does whisky. Airbus goes 50. Uber goes NY copter. Alex flies to South Africa, misplaces stuff (angry breakfast and angry lounge shower follow). Paul flies the Q Suite to Singapore, marvels at the Jewel waterfall (rain vortex!). United goes green. AF/KLM goes V plane. Alex survives a chipped E190 with rocky suspensions to Toronto. Paul falls in love with Singapore Airlines (again!) but damages a bin. The future of Changi T5. The A220 becomes enhanced. De Havilland is back. Introducing the MRJ CRJ Space Jet (or something). VIP Terminals. Paul flies EVA, loves the lounge pizza, the rest, well… Alex gets a crush on Toronto. Why YYZ?

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Flight 094. Niki Lauda the legend who pushed death aside. Beers and more beers: Betsy makes a come back, BA adds a secret First Class bottled beer, and more on the Speedbird 100 (toilet clog, anyone?). From Nando's to Taco Bell, zeitgeist food in travel (and debating whether there is one or two Michelin star airport restaurants worldwide). BA goes whisky, JetBlue opts for treason (I mean, Pepsi, really?). United goes Spiderman, Avianca and women liveries. Alex flies the SWISS 77W, in 7A (Paul's favorite seat), but gets his wifi gobbled up (and Paul offers a trick to avoid paying for Swiss throne seats, and how to get an F experience on the cheap). None of us get thrown out of a plane (but one stupid passenger did in NZ, good!). Iberia measures your carry-on in augmented reality, and we measure the worst Aeroflot 1492 surviving passenger. Delta tests free wifi for all, no matter the seat back IFE comeback, and MUC tests what AMS already offers, seamless X-ray scanning. Cathay Move Beyond business, and attempts to move beyond a very murky HNA / HK Express situation (Alex wants to never move beyond the HK theme park however). Boeing fails to regain trust, whilst the 737 MAX is still thrustless. Google's superapp, Amazon's supperairport (and flight search!). Qatar reshuffles its fleet (and hates the 340, yay!) and goes Canada whilst Etihad goes Serbia. The South American game, some losers, some winners (a Ryanair of LatAm). Paul flies to a WeChat airport (in the midst of removing paper strips in its tower). The incredible LY001 747 history, along with a record that will never be broken. The TLV security measures, past and present, from VIP to sheruts.

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Flight 093. Paul sounds like a robot (sorry, guys), Alex sounds authoritative (he's always right, no?). The BA Speedbird 100 beer (when need Glen to assess it!). Some on-board pop that foams too much (Alex is the worst passenger). On-board food: increasing portions, farm-to-plane, rooftop potatoes. After the on-board food: the toilet to passenger ratio revealed (but also how to cram gold in a lavatory). Don't get too much on-board food: getting weighted to board (do the 7 layers of clothing count?). The future of ISL Ataturk and Mexico's airports (and BER, the Fyre Festival of airports). The tricky category C airports in Europe, Innsbruck, LCY and others that require special training (and specific technologies). The continuing acts of customer experience contritions by BA (afraid of JetBlue maybe?) and United (but it goes only so far). JAL really did name its low cost Zip Air Tokyo (and used Word to create the logo). The best Priority Pass lounges awards. Tons of feedback. And the uncertain future of the Sukhoi Superjet 100, after the sad tragedy.

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Flight 092. Alex loves Innsbruck 3000. Paul loves running in CDG 3000. We adore the new TWA infinity edge pool 3000. We love the new United livery 3000. We love tiny airports that behave like big ones, 3000. We love the BA coronation chicken 3000, the best shot haul airplane food in Europe. We love Emirates and Qantas IFE data 3000, and luxury brands love Emirates 3000. We're fascinated by the post Jet Airways Indian market, 3000. We do not love United crew who resell ticket, Emirates First passengers who steal bottles, or Cathay staff who steal cutlery, 3000. We're intrigued by the Japanese low-cost market, 3000, baffled at the Hong Kong Airlines infighting, 3000, and by the Taiwan airline heirs saga, 3000. Lufthansa loves Europe 3000. We're aghast at the Boeing Charleston revelations (3000?). We wish the US3 would actually stop whining, 3000. The new Japan era isn't 3000. United, 3000, Avengers, assemble …what? Yeah, Paul should really stop with those bad Endgame puns in those notes …3000.

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Flight 091. Warning, doesn't contain images of any aircraft in distress. BA pizza app delivery to Lagos (so many questions!). Risk of cheese smell upon landing at Moscow DME (does that make immigration go faster?). Virgin Atlantic unveils a half door (but it has nice colors). Paul flies BA First with round buttons (but fix that 789 IFE remote for Pete's sakes!!). Alex bids his Etihad way up (just to be jarred by the backward seating). JetBlue announces the worsts-kept secret in the industry: it's coming to Europe (and we devise their winning strategy for LCY). Flying in style: in-flight bars or lounges (more precisely, being alone or not). The DME Navigator lounge seat Paul and Alex fight over. The New Istanbul looks grandiose (congrats! And thank you for our ever-incredible listeners for the pictures just after opening). Ethiopia overtakes DXB (kinda) and DWC decides to wait for the Heathrow's third runway (kinda again). Grand Stansted Tour hilarious rant. Why is Jet Airways even trying anymore? We can't avoid discussing the 737 MAX. And DEL, well, we'll let you judge…

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Flight 090. BA flies to the wrong destination (Ryanair mocks, but did worse) and introduces its shortest hop ever. WOW is gone, Jet Airways is close to be gone, but StarLux goes bold. AMS has a direct view on the luggage delivery system (WHAT?!). Astana is no more (just the name of the city, we recorded 079 just at the right time!). Cathay buys Hong Kong Express (did we call it?). ANA gets its first A380, and a very cute one. The Russia 860-seater double-decker escalator-filled plane that never was (but engineers designed folding wing tips). The Irkut MC-21 flies to compete with the 320/737. Qantas mulls crazy ideas for its ultra long haul flights (but, really, a space to stretch our legs is all we'd hope for). The LHR hawk is so smart (the Singapore stowaway too?). Cool flight deck stories at Delta (family goals!) and JetBlue (PA goals!). More to the 737 story. The RIX airfield that you can't miss. And yes, BA introduce the Club Suite …what do we think?

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Flight 089. The Ethiopian disaster, the 737 MAX grounding and aftermath. A dress, a baby and a stupid passenger enter aircrafts, who gets tasered? (Not the red badge!) Lufthansa fights skiplagging, on-boards doctors (amazing program!!), ditches four engines aircrafts (and Airbus is buying the 380 back!) The best wine and champagne in the sky (but where is Emirates?) Random AirDrop, the new in-flight game. United prepares a new globe (be careful, it's delicate!) and BA unveils its last vintage livery. Cathay eyes HK Express (and we eye the HKG Qantas lounge). Do not ever fly the SAS A340 LN-RKP (it sucks). Be careful with iPad stands that look like a knife (Paul knows). Air Astana keeps Diet Coke refrigerated just for Alex, whilst Paul embarks on a depiction of the sky color of beautiful Astana, Alex rocks the jacket on a (limo)bike whilst Paul explains fuel hedging — Paul clearly needs to up his game to catch up with being Alex cool.

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Flight 088. The end of the A380. Color printing is key to enter MEX. The new world of electronic authorizations of travel. The delicate art and science of aircraft forecasting (and everybody gets it wrong). The real prices of aircrafts. Rolls-Royce is losing a ton of money. Toulouse, both a name and a city. Wings can't be red anymore. Alex flies to SFO, or at least tries to, gets humiliated on the way before experiencing a comedy of errors. Paul flies to SFO via the long route, navigating the bowels of DXB, not sure his luggage would ever follow. Process versus experience, comparing two fantastic airlines, Emirates and Cathay. Did Cathay steal the Lufthansa seats at SFO? Alex tries Aeromexico and flies over the cancelled new MEX. SFO gets an observation deck, only for Star Alliance, which might mean Etihad too soon. Air France and KLM need couple counseling. Paul gets mistaken for Jason Bourne.

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Flight 087. The beeping T-shirt, A Star Wars Story. Paul falls in love with Ethiopian, reviews Asiana and JAL. IAG gives up on Norwegian. WOW has no more wow. FlyBe might be saved. NRT celebrates 40, expands new signage, offers no-nonsense security, but no more whisky. JAL's First shoe shine service. A snow globe crashes. The never-ending 787 Trent story: ANA incident, Norwegian replacements. BA announces 747 retirement plans (it's SOON!). FRA is building a new terminal (more stupid layouts?). Premium business, and more fare segmentation. Alcohol makes people dangerously stupid: a JAL pilot arrested and fired, a passenger hijacks an Aeroflot 737, and WestJet sues intoxicated passenger for diversion (we're rooting for WestJet!). BA plays the wrong track.

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Flight 086. Remembering Herb Kelleher, how he changed the aviation world, his legacy, his lessons, his arm wrestling. The Miracle of the Hudson, as witnessed by Alex. FRA comes to its senses and asks passengers to not come to the airport. Tipping flight attends, for or against? United loves Pacific Blue, Premium Purple, Atlantic Amethyst, and Apple. Cook your own United food. Is there always a doctor in the plane? Gulf Air goes "boutique", British Airways goes vintage, Aer Lingus goes non-sense, S7 stays a very bright green horse. No fancy dressing, no noise, no food liberation, the lounge etiquettes. The last B727 passenger flight. Will the A220-500 be built in the USA? The US shutdown effects, from security lapses to Delta not getting its A220s, to pizza deliveries. The Amadeus exploit, no seat or the ATR oxygen, what's the worse safety lapse? With QR getting full EU access, should BA move to Qatar post-Brexit? BCN uses MS Paint to create the worse e-gates in the world. Does drone geofencing work? Do McNuggets in lounge work? Our best 2018 flight memory (cheeky and charming, maybe?).

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Flight 085. HKG gates numbers, HKG electronic security, HKG landside shopping — a ton of HKG minutiae. A220 dividers debate, A220 sales success, A220 charcuterie board — a ton of A220 ingredients. MNL safety lapses, MNL domestic adventure, MNL abandoned Xiamen 737 — a ton of MNL mischief. Boeing longest range, Boeing sci-fi wing, Boeing Norwegian Iran jam — a ton of Boeing scores. Brexit IAG headache, Brexit German Rolls-Royce, Brexit remote stand — a ton of Brexit nonsense. BA turbulence fear, CX turbulence coffee gimbal, China high terrain — a ton of turbulence dread. LGW drone hysteria, LHR drone stoppage, eagles drone intercept — a ton of drone frenzy. LX cancellation, LH delays, FRA bus strike — a ton of stupidity. A Beech H18, Dan Dan Mien, the China Coast Pub — a ton of elegant delights.

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00:00 - Introduction, a Hunter family historical event

• Williamhunter (@Williamhunter) | Twitter
• Alex Hunter on Instagram: “My daughter Juno” • Instagram
• Attache Los Angeles Travel Guide - YouTube
• Layovers 038 BOS — Layovers

02:07 - Will Hunter: why Boston, past aviation career

09:12 - Safe 2017, soiling United, in flight ice-cream

• safety-2017-best-year-safest-airline-passengers-worldwide-to70-civil-aviation-review-a8130796.html">Airline safety: 2017 was safest year in history for passengers around world, research shows | The Independent
• Chicago flight diverted after man spreads ‘human waste’ in bathrooms | WGN-TV
• North American Premium Cabin Dining Menu | United Airlines

17:21 - JFK bomb cyclone

• airport-delays.html">J.F.K. Airport Plagued by Delays After Winter Storm - The New York Times
• Planes Clip Amid Growing Passenger Frustrations At JFK Airport « CBS New York

23:43 - Ground handling revealed

• Leading provider of air and travel services | dnata

31:11 - ANA bonus passenger, names mixup, Ryanair fast exit

• Chrissy Teigen live tweets bizarre flight turnaround, featuring John Legend
• How exactly does a passenger get on the wrong flight? - CNN
• 'I'm going via the wing': fed-up Ryanair passenger takes emergency exit | Business | The Guardian

40:46 - Worst airports, airport business models, MNL handouts

• Which are the world’s worst airports? - Departure gates of hell

54:25 - Emirates 777 First, New Google Flights, Alaska Timbers

• ALL TIME GREATEST AIRPLANE SEAT - Emirates First Class Suite - YouTube
• Emirates To Start London Stansted With New First Class - TravelUpdate
• Google Flights gets a major upgrade right before the holiday season – BGR
• Portland Timbers Commemorative Aircraft | Alaska Airlines

1:03:58 - BOS

• Boston Logan International Airport
• Attache Boston Travel Guide - YouTube

1:10:24 - Next flights, DEN, Mastication Nation

• Mastication Nation - Food without the fuss. \ - SoundCloud
• Mastication Nation - a food podcast without the fuss. by Mastication Nation - Food without the fuss\ - Apple Podcasts
• Mastication Nation - Facebook
• Mastication Nation (@masticationntn) - Twitter

• layovers ✈︎ - air travel and commercial aviation - SoundCloud
• layovers ✈︎ - air travel and commercial aviation - Apple Podcasts
• Layovers - Facebook
• Layovers ✈︎ (@lay_overs) | Twitter

• William Hunter (@Williamhunter) | Twitter
• Alex Hunter (@cubedweller) | Twitter
• Paul Papadimitriou (@papadimitriou) | Twitter

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00:00 - Introduction

01:18 - Reviews, questions, window blinds, Star Wars planes

• layovers ✈︎ on Apple Podcasts
• Layovers on Facebook
• Layovers on Twitter
• sw.com/">ANA STAR WARS PROJECT

12:48 - Snowpocalypse, airline early warnings, Milan Linate

• Snow causes chaos at Heathrow as British Airways flights are diverted 300 miles away to Newcastle

35:27 - The United verdict, Channel 9, Polaris, EWR

• everything-you-want-know-about-where-sit-united-764-767-400-a.html">Everything You Want to Know About Where to Sit on a United 764 \767-400\ - FlyerTalk Forums
• Polaris Business Class
• United Airlines Struggles to Keep Its Polaris Promises – Skift
• Which of United's 767s Will Get the New Polaris Seats?
• consolidated-channel-9-availability-discussion-thread-merged-24.html">Consolidated "Channel 9 Availability" Discussion Thread \Merged\ - Page 24 - FlyerTalk Forums

56:42 - United 747 amenity kit

New 747 Amenity Kits on United Airlines - Live and Let's Fly

1:00:26 - Business of lounges, smart luggage ban, fees disclosure

• The Airport Lounge Business — An Insider's View of How It All Works – Skift
• New airline rules are leaving smart luggage makers in a tough spot | TechCrunch
• Trump admin scraps Obama-era proposal requiring airlines to disclose bag fees | TheHill

1:08:19 - St Petersburg airport, layovers through Russia

• Pulkovo Airport (Saint Petersburg)

1: 16:38 - A380 Christmas tree (air freshener)

• Airbus A380 draws giant Christmas tree over Germany - BBC News

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00:00 - Introduction

01:43 - Emirates new super First, virtual windows, new business & coach

• 'Zero gravity' and private suites: Emirates' new Boeing 777 first-class cabin revealed
• Emirates unveils brand new cabins for its Boeing 777 fleet
• A tour inside Emirates' new first class cabin - YouTube (video)
• 5 Game Changers in New Boeing 777 First Class | Emirates Airline - YouTube (video)
• Game Changer | New Emirates First Class featuring Jeremy Clarkson | Emirates Airline - YouTube (video)

21:37 - Alex's wife asks why they don't fly Emirates more

• What is my allowance for cabin baggage? | Emirates United Kingdom
• airlines-accommodate-kids-on-long-flights-20170417-story.html">Some airlines go above and beyond to accommodate kids on long flights - Chicago Tribune

26:32 - Emirates buys Dreamliners

• Emirates places US$15.1 billion order for 40 Boeing 787 Dreamliners at 2017 Dubai Airshow
• boeing-dubai-air-show-787-a350-a380-new-orders-11-abreast-seating-a8050941.html">Emirates makes huge $15bn order for Boeing 'Dreamliners' as US firm leaves Airbus in its wake | The Independent

** 32:22 - Qatar buys into Cathay, Italy ambitions**

• Qatar Airways is buying nearly 10% of Cathay Pacific - Nov. 6, 2017
• Qatar Airways buys stake in Cathay Pacific
• of-the-meridiana-agreement-by-qatar-airways-and-alisa.html?activeTag=Press-releases">Completion Of The Meridiana Agreement By Qatar Airways And Alisarda | Qatar Airways
• Qatar Airways expects Meridiana to be Italy's 'real' national carrier

** 40:00 - Singapore offers hotel rooms in the sky**

• airlines-just-unveiled-new-suites-for-its-airbus-a380.html">Singapore Airlines just unveiled new suites for its Airbus A380
• OMG: A Leak Of Singapore's New A380 Suites Class?!?! - One Mile at a Time
• Full Details Of Singapore's New A380 Business Class - One Mile at a Time

** 46:39 - No 380 secondary market, 777 was the real revolution**

• The first ever A380 superjumbo has gone into storage – so will it end up on the scrap heap?

** 51:10 - AF 380 uncontained engine failure, repatriation strategy**

• Air France engine failure forces emergency landing in Canada - CNN
• Air France engine debris found in Greenland - BBC News
• BEA takes lead on Air France A380 engine failure probe
• How Air France Will Rescue Its A380 With a Shattered Engine | WIRED
• Replacing the World's Largest Jet Engine at 40-Below

** 57:22 - Airbus artful acquisition of Bombardier CS, massive 320neo order**

• Airbus takes majority stake in Bombardier's C Series programme
• Boeing Scorns Airbus, Bombardier Plan for Alabama Facility - Bloomberg

** 1:03:26 - Alex flies to LED, Attache, Paul flies to TIA, Bruce Dickinson book**

• St. Petersburg Travel Guide - YouTube (video)
• What Does This Button Do? - Bruce Dickinson - Hardcover
• BA Gatwick South new Club lounge review - Turning left for less

** 1:09:33 — Alex spots a drone on final

• Amateur drone pilots face flight safety test in UK
• Drones to be registered and users to sit safety tests under new government rules - GOV.UK

** 1:15:33 - BQH, flying private**

• London Biggin Hill Airport

** 1:20:48 - Conclusion, next flights**

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00:00 - Introduction

01:43 - Emirates new super First, virtual windows, new business & coach

• 'Zero gravity' and private suites: Emirates' new Boeing 777 first-class cabin revealed
• Emirates unveils brand new cabins for its Boeing 777 fleet
• A tour inside Emirates' new first class cabin - YouTube (video)
• 5 Game Changers in New Boeing 777 First Class | Emirates Airline - YouTube (video)
• Game Changer | New Emirates First Class featuring Jeremy Clarkson | Emirates Airline - YouTube (video)

21:37 - Alex's wife asks why they don't fly Emirates more

• What is my allowance for cabin baggage? | Emirates United Kingdom
• airlines-accommodate-kids-on-long-flights-20170417-story.html">Some airlines go above and beyond to accommodate kids on long flights - Chicago Tribune

26:32 - Emirates buys Dreamliners

• Emirates places US$15.1 billion order for 40 Boeing 787 Dreamliners at 2017 Dubai Airshow
• boeing-dubai-air-show-787-a350-a380-new-orders-11-abreast-seating-a8050941.html">Emirates makes huge $15bn order for Boeing 'Dreamliners' as US firm leaves Airbus in its wake | The Independent

** 32:22 - Qatar buys into Cathay, Italy ambitions**

• Qatar Airways is buying nearly 10% of Cathay Pacific - Nov. 6, 2017
• Qatar Airways buys stake in Cathay Pacific
• of-the-meridiana-agreement-by-qatar-airways-and-alisa.html?activeTag=Press-releases">Completion Of The Meridiana Agreement By Qatar Airways And Alisarda | Qatar Airways
• Qatar Airways expects Meridiana to be Italy's 'real' national carrier

** 40:00 - Singapore offers hotel rooms in the sky**

• airlines-just-unveiled-new-suites-for-its-airbus-a380.html">Singapore Airlines just unveiled new suites for its Airbus A380
• OMG: A Leak Of Singapore's New A380 Suites Class?!?! - One Mile at a Time
• Full Details Of Singapore's New A380 Business Class - One Mile at a Time

** 46:39 - No 380 secondary market, 777 was the real revolution**

• The first ever A380 superjumbo has gone into storage – so will it end up on the scrap heap?

** 51:10 - AF 380 uncontained engine failure, repatriation strategy**

• Air France engine failure forces emergency landing in Canada - CNN
• Air France engine debris found in Greenland - BBC News
• BEA takes lead on Air France A380 engine failure probe
• How Air France Will Rescue Its A380 With a Shattered Engine | WIRED
• Replacing the World's Largest Jet Engine at 40-Below

** 57:22 - Airbus artful acquisition of Bombardier CS, massive 320neo order**

• Airbus takes majority stake in Bombardier's C Series programme
• Boeing Scorns Airbus, Bombardier Plan for Alabama Facility - Bloomberg

** 1:03:26 - Alex flies to LED, Attache, Paul flies to TIA, Bruce Dickinson book**

• St. Petersburg Travel Guide - YouTube (video)
• What Does This Button Do? - Bruce Dickinson - Hardcover
• BA Gatwick South new Club lounge review - Turning left for less

** 1:09:33 — Alex spots a drone on final

• Amateur drone pilots face flight safety test in UK
• Drones to be registered and users to sit safety tests under new government rules - GOV.UK

** 1:15:33 - BQH, flying private**

• London Biggin Hill Airport

** 1:20:48 - Conclusion, next flights**

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00:00 - Introduction

02:01 - Layovers fan mail, reviews, headphones

• Layovers - Reviews | Facebook
• Layovers - Reviews on iTunes

11:10 - Ryanair chaos, pilots shortages, Norwegian

• latest-passengers-left-furious-as-cancellations-spark-chaos-a3638296.html">Ryanair latest: Passengers left furious as flight cancellations spark chaos | London Evening Standard
• The Ryanair chaos is symptomatic of an industry that doesn't respect its customers ($)
• Ryanair's stranded customers in tears as they reveal anger at chaos and are forced to call £25 premium helpline that is jammed
• Ryanair pilots recruited by Norwegian following airline chaos | City & Business | Finance | Express.co.uk
• Ryanair is preparing takeover bid for Alitalia, says Michael O'Leary | Business | The Guardian
• Ryanair staff brand company a 'disgrace' over handling of issues | Business | The Guardian
• Ryanair Pilots Reject 'Sticking Plaster' Bonuses After Airline Asks Them To Work Extra Shifts | HuffPost UK

25:57 - Air Berlin, Etihad retreat, ownership rules, China, EU structure

• Decrying 'stitch-up', Ryanair won't bid for Air Berlin assets
• Lufthansa, EasyJet Get Inside Track on Buying Air Berlin Assets - Bloomberg
• Lufthansa eyes up 78 Air Berlin planes, hinting more is to come - The Local
• Air Berlin's final U.S. flights to depart Oct. 15: Travel Weekly
• fvw Kongress: Minister defends state aid for Air Berlin
• Airline ownership and control rules: at once both irrelevant and enduring | CAPA
• Delta, China Eastern to take Air France-KLM stakes

38:29 - PIT non-flyer access, Pan Am nostalgia, global security

• Pittsburgh first airport to allow non-fliers past security since 9/11
• PAN AM AIRLINES JFK AIRPORT 1960 "WORLDPORT" PROMO FILM w/ BOEING 707 72382 - YouTube
• Daily Mail Front Page On Airport Queues Causes Some Confusion | HuffPost UK

43:42 - British Airways' future, comparing it to LH or B6

• ‘Anyone but British Airways’: turbulent times at the nation’s flag carrier | The Sunday Times Magazine | The Times & The Sunday Times

1:07:57 - MRS airport

• airport.com/">Passengers & Visitors | Marseille Provence Airport

1:12:53 - Conclusion, next flights

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00:00 - Introduction

01:11 - How To Land A Plane

• How to Land a Plane — Mark Vanhoenacker
• Buy at Amazon UK: How to Land a Plane Little Ways to Live a Big Life
• Buy at Waterstones: How to Land a Plane by Mark Vanhoenacker
• Mark Vanhoenacker on Facebook
• Mark Vanhoenacker on Twitter

16:31 - Take-offs or landings?

24:19 - Mark's first 747 landing

31:12 - Flight simulator

34:01 - The climates of RUH, DFW, PHX

37:53 - Will Mark leave the 747 for the 787?

45:50 - Training for the 320

48:38 - Airplane!

50:47 - NBO

• Jomo Kenyatta International | Kenya Airports Authority

53:59 - Watching over SDU, Decide v Minimums

• The language of the cockpit is technical, obscure – and irresistibly romantic | Aeon Essays

56:23 - Buy the book, 747, Skyfaring photo gallery

• window seat pics by readers of Mark Vanhoenacker's Skyfaring | Flickr

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00:00 - Introduction

01:14 - Alex's generally fine BA experience, disgusting seat

02:51 - 787 dimmable windows, night flight policies, food timing

• Windows 787
• How The Magical Windows in Boeing's 787 Dreamliner Work

15:41 - The Asian super-airports, China's rise

• Singapore and Hong Kong's Airport Dominance Is Under Threat - Bloomberg
• The Best Airport in the World Just Got Better - Bloomberg

23:41 - Qantas ULR routes, DXB abandonment, PR seat

• Qantas non-stop flights to New York, London: Plan to launch flights from Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane by 2022
• Qantas drops Dubai, brings back Singapore option for travel to London | Australian Aviation
• airlines-a330-300-hgw.html">Philippine Airlines Unveils New Fleet of A330-300 HGW Aircraft ~ Philippine Flight Network

32:14 - Paul goes to MNL with Emirates and Cathay

• Emirates’ super jumbo message against the illegal wildlife trade

33:58 - Rerouting: EK versus BA

36:14 - The Emirates experience, seat history, old CX 777

41:23 - Tighter security, the two-class EK 380, LGW

• SeatGuru Seat Map Emirates Airbus A380-800 (388) Two Class

44:27 - E-gates: the bad LHR, the good LGW, the outstanding FCO

47:41 - Emirates champagne controversy

• attendant-seen-pouring-champagne-bottle.html">Emirates flight attendant pours champagne back into bottle | Daily Mail Online

49:28 - SQ versus CX, the strange Singapore amenity kit policy

• Comparing Singapore Airlines' 70th Anniversary Amenity Kits - Black and Grey — The Shutterwhale

57:03 - ZRH E beauty, security at the gate, HKG transfer

• SWISS unveils three new luxurious lounges at Zurich airport - LoungeReview.com
• Passenger Guide - Transfer / Transit - Transfer / Transit Procedures - Hong Kong International Airport

1:02:05 - SWISS 700-300ER awkward seat, miles screw up

• 300er.html">Boeing 777-300ER | The new SWISS flagship

1:07:24 - MNL airport, T3's checkered history

• airport.net/">Manila Ninoy Aquino International Airport (MNL)
• Naia Terminal 3 finally starts full operations | INQUIRER.net
• AirAsia Zest - Wikipedia

1:19:16 - Conclusion, Attache LA

• Los Angeles Travel Guide - YouTube

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00:00 - Introduction, Asia summer for Paul

02:26 - Alex flies his bike on JetBlue, Mint, Mosaic

• Find Your Keys, Wallet & Phone with Tile’s App and Bluetooth Tracker Device | Tile
• JetBlue | TrueBlue: Promotion ended

15:59 - United dog, 747, seat nightmare

• United Airlines apologizes for death of dog on flight - Emirates 24|7
• airlines-special-for-boeing-747-enthusiasts.html">United Airlines doing something special for Boeing 747 enthusiasts - Chicago Business Journal
• United Refused to Let Young Child Nap In The Empty Seats Next to Her - View from the Wing

20:58 - US security confusion, books, TSA prize

• Whoa: Electronics Are Now Banned From Checked Bags On US-Bound Flights?! - One Mile at a Time
• No laptop ban as U.S. says all airlines have raised security
• TAP Portugal on Facebook - update
• ban-air-travel.html">Laptop Ban on Planes Is Lifted, U.S. Officials Confirm - NYTimes.com
• New TSA Policy May Lead to Increased Scrutiny of Reading Material | American Civil Liberties Union
• Hate extra airport pat-downs? TSA offering 1.5 million to fix the system | Stuck at the Airport

28:40 - Southwest love, LAX helicopter

• Alex Hunter on Twitter: "Flying on @SouthwestAir really is a joy. Friendly crew, efficient service, streaming IFE/live TV, free snacks. EasyJet could learn a lot."

32:25 - FAA shrinking seats, LGA expansion, supersonic regulation

• Judges order FAA to review airplane seat sizes - Jul. 29, 2017
• Delta receives OK to do $4B LaGuardia project: Travel Weekly
• Lee-Gardner Amendment is a solid step toward supersonic flight)

35:53 - Air Canada SFO near miss

• Exclusive: Air Canada near-miss at SFO sparks FAA probe
• SFO near-miss: Air Canada pulled up with 11 seconds to spare
• SFO: Source says Air Canada pilot not using computer system
• Air Canada NEAR DISASTER at San Francisco (ATC Transcripts) - YouTube

45:57 - Easyjet ecstasy, NRT fence, 787 drawing

• French EasyJet pilot convicted for flying ‘while suffering the after-effects of ecstasy’
• safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=197257">ASN Aircraft serious incident 15-JUL-2017 Boeing 747-8F N852GT
• Boeing Draws A 787 Over The United States With A 787 - Airways Magazine

49:56 - Layovers reviews, AnalyseAsia

• Episode 192: Asian Airlines in Crisis & Rise of China Aviation with Paul Papadimitriou by analyseasia | Free Listening on SoundCloud

53:00 - Air France missile, VR, Joon

• CSISAerospace on Twitter: "North Korea's #Hwasong14 missile test splashed down within minutes of @AirFrance 293's flight path last week. https://t.co/yKz5vphjAP https://t.co/Hy2Eiqsmhj"
• Air France tests immersive entertainment | IFE content from ATWOnline
• Air France Plans Lower-Cost Airline to Attract Millennials

57:48 - Paul tries three Singapore 777, explicit IFE, Uber

1:10:51 - Qatar and AA, Al Baker apology, visa, creative accounting

• Qatar Air Moves on From American Airlines Plan - Bloomberg
• American Airlines Says It Will End Codeshare Deals With Qatar Airways And Etihad Airways
• Qatar Airways CEO Apologizes After Calling U.S. Flight Attendants 'Grandmothers'
• GREAT NEWS!! VISA-free: Now Citizens of 80 countries Can Enter Qatar
• Qatar Airways' Fairy-Tale 'Profit' | HuffPost
• Accounting Gimmicks And Hard Realities At Etihad Airways | HuffPost

1:20:23 - BKK

• Suvarnabhumi Airport (BKK) – Official Airports of Thailand

1:29:17 - Conclusion, next flights

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00:00 - Introduction

• Tyler Mixa on Instagram: “Listening to the KIX episode of Layovers at KIX! Shoutout to Alex and Paul (@cubedweller and @papadimitriou) for an awesome show! #kix…” • Instagram

01:52 - Qatar buys some American, A350 cancellations, DL subsidy video

• Qatar Airways wants to buy 10% stake in American Airlines
• American Airlines CEO Learned of Qatar's Investment Interest at IATA Conference – Skift
• The Puzzling Reason Qatar Airways Canceled Four A350 Orders - One Mile at a Time
• Delta releases full-length video educating employees on Gulf carrier subsidies | Delta News Hub

09:02 - FlyDubai with Emirates, Laptop ban almost gone

• Emirates and Flydubai May Be Merged Within 18 Months
• ban-who-does-trumps-executive-order-block-from-entering-us.html">Travel ban: Who does Trump's executive order block from entering the US? | Fox News
• US lifts laptop ban on passengers flying with Etihad, Emirates and Turkish Airlines | TechCrunch
• US holds off expanding airline laptop ban as new rules laid out - BBC News

15:18 - Security awkwardness, EK facial boarding, Seamless airports, EK interlining

That Time the TSA Found a Scientist’s 3-D-Printed Mouse Penis - The Atlantic

• Emirates to Use Face Scanners to Cut Waits as U.S. Ban Looms - Bloomberg

22:54 - HKG 380 bridge, Etihad free seat bidding, LCY Olympic stadium view

• HKIA to create A380 sky bridge in major expansion | Travel Daily Asia
• Etihad Airways will let passengers pay for 'neighbor-free seats' - Jun. 23, 2017

29:09 - Alex praises BA, BA uses Qatar planes, BA new brand director

• airways-strike-latest-updates-flights-cabin-crew-airline-cancellation-unite-union-heathrow-a7809561.html">British Airways strike: Airline cancels dozens of flights before cabin crew walkout | The Independent
• British Airways Seeks Planes and Crew From Qatar During Proposed Flight Attendant Strike – Skift
• British Airways Applies to Use Qatar Planes During Strike
• British Airways confirms new director of customer experience
• year-old-plane-super-13245611.amp">Four-year-old plane super-fan Isla had never flown before - until British Airways stepped in - Wales Online

40:30 - LCC vs train, Norwegian shortages, Price vs exprience

• Man takes ridiculous route between Newcastle and London because it's cheaper than public transport | indy100

45:48 - Paris Air Show tally, Leahy retires, Airbus reorg, 797

• Boeing vs. Airbus: A new winner emerges at the Paris Air Show - Jun. 22, 2017
• Boeing wins hot Paris order race
• Airbus' Leahy reveals negotiating tricks after 'last air show'
• Exclusive: Airbus CEO Enders to take control of plane sales in new shake-up
• Boeing '797' doesn't exist yet. One airline already says it wants it first - Jun. 29, 2017

49:06 - Swiss CS300 , BA CS100, LH iPad, Southwest 737th 737

• Bombardier | The innovative ones | SWISS
• Bombardier cracks milestone, delivers first CS300 passenger jet to Swiss International | Financial Post
• Bombardier CS300 dedicated to Western Switzerland | SWISS - YouTube
• Opinion: The CS100 Could Be The Future for British Airways' London City to New York Service | AirlineGeeks.com
• Lufthansa equips flight attendants with iPads to improve in-flight experience
• Southwest Airlines on Twitter: "Our 737th new @BoeingAirplanes 737 is now in service! Look for the special plaque if you're flying on aircraft N8533S. https://t.co/ifsyCwkDxh"

54:29 - 1985 trip report, Bus crash into 737

• Vickers Viscount trip reports/photos England 1985 - Airliners.net
• Bangkok Post

57:13 - BA A321 exit seats, FCO praise, AF A318, CDG TGV

• SeatGuru Seat Map British Airways Airbus A321 (321) European
• Rome's Fiumicino Airport Opens New International Departures Area (with great food!) - An American in Rome
• AIRBUS A318 | Air France KLM

1:06:02 - Paul flies the 747-8i, Korean Air

• Fleet Information - Korean Air
• and-korean-air-747-8.page">Boeing: Boeing and Korean Air 747-8

1:11:29 - Coins in A320 engine, DL crazy huge brawl

• NEWS China Southern Airlines #CZ380 delayed 5 hours after woman throws coins into engine to pray for peace at Shanghai | AIRLIVE.net
• FBI: Flight attendant broke wine bottle over man's head
• Charges: Fists, wine bottles flew after passenger tried to open door on Seattle-Beijing flight | The Seattle Times

1:17:51 - ICN

• ICN

1:25:55 - Conclusion

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00:00 - Introduction

00:41 - The Attache Guide to Travel

• Attaché Guide to Travel by Alex Hunter — Kickstarter

04:20 - Cool projects, podcast reviews

08:16 - PHX LGW DXB heatwave

• It’s so hot in Phoenix that airplanes can’t fly - The Washington Post
• PressReader.com - Connecting People Through News
• Historic Heat Wave Sweeps Asia, the Middle East and Europe by Dr. Jeff Masters | Category 6 | Weather Underground

12:54 - Paris Air Show, 380plus, 747 end, supercars

• airbus-380plus-adds-80-seats-to-worlds-largest-passenger-plane-20170618-gwto80.html">Upgraded Airbus 380plus adds 80 seats to world's largest passenger plane
• U.A.E. supercar flies on Emirates | Emirates SkyCargo - YouTube

20.36 - 737 MAX-10, A321neo, 797

23.56 - Virgin America 321neo, Alaska, United

• PICTURE: Virgin America becomes first to take A321neo

27.34 - Embraer eagle, MRJ scope clauses

• PICTURES: E195-E2 with unique livery touches down in Paris
• network.com/maintenance-repair-overhaul/mrj-s-biggest-us-challenges-scope-clauses-certification">MRJ’s Biggest U.S. Challenges: Scope Clauses, Certification | MRO Network

30:19 - Qatar, first 777 Q suite

• Qatar Airways Qsuites Will Be Available To London As Of June 24, 2017 - One Mile at a Time

33:51 - Alex on EasyJet, luxury Luton

• EasyJet offers private jet experience at Luton – without the private jet | World news | The Guardian

39:24 - Paul FRA mess, Finnair 350 Zodiac

• Airbus to Swap Finnair's Zodiac Seats Amid A350 Quality Concerns - Bloomberg

44.17 - Alex BA seat mixup, 787, SFO security, 747, TSA

52.59 - Infuriating GDS, OTA price mismatch, TravelUp, EK

57:59 - SFO Burger, LoyaltyLobby, Air Koryo, CX

• Flight Review: Air Koryo JS 222 Beijing – Pyongyang | LoyaltyLobby

1:02.20 - World Airline Awards, AirHelp rankings

• WORLD AIRLINE AWARDS 2017 | Passengers Choice Awards
• Top Airline Rankings Worldwide + Airline Ratings | AH Score

1:11:54 - Stratolaunch

• stratolaunch-worlds-largest-airplane-first-rollout.html">Paul Allen's Ginormous Stratolaunch Carrier Plane Rolls Out for 1st Time
• Stratolaunch

1.14.29 - KIX

• airport.or.jp/en/index.asp">Kansai International Airport Official Site

1:21:56 - Next flights

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00:00 - Introduction

01:04 - Qatar blockade

• Qatar Airways slammed by Arab blockade - Jun. 6, 2017

06:30 - Electronic ban extension, US air traffic privatization

• Laptop ban extension could impact air travel, airlines warn
• Why Trump Wants to Privatize Air-Traffic Control - The Atlantic

09:46 - Bluetooth in flight, AirPods, Apple Maps

• AirPods - Apple
• Apple updates Maps with detailed floor plans of airports, malls in iOS 11

18:17 - Airport beacons, Bose scandal

• Bose Headphones Secretly Collected User Data - Lawsuit | Fortune.com

21:57 - EK laptop ban, United ultra long haul

• United To Fly Longest Ever Route by a U.S. Airline – Skift

25:06 - Level

• Flight Review: LEVEL Airlines IB 2622 Premium Economy OAK-BCN | LoyaltyLobby
• Flight Review: LEVEL Airlines Inaugural Flight Barcelona to Los Angeles | LoyaltyLobby

29:24 - Morning cargo flights, IB 340 seat

• A340-600 | Iberia | Seat Maps | Reviews | Seatplans.com

34:42 - IFE, air vents, flight boards

38:34 - Burgers in planes

42:32 - BA IT crash, status extension

• British Airways Giving Complimentary Status For 2 Years - TravelUpdate

53:10 - BA isn't the worst airline, LHR slots

• Oman Air Pays Record Price For Heathrow Slot - One Mile at a Time

1:00:42 - Muscat Airport, Oman Air

• Oman Airports

1:08:33 - Conclusion: reviews, next flights

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00:00 - Introduction

01:18 - Cathay Pacific First, reorganization

• First | Flight Classes | Cathay Pacific Airways

13:01 - Favorite pajamas, eyemask, bad amenity kits

18:28 - Podcast reviews

20.45 - KLM King

• king-klm-pilot-for-21-years.html">Dutch king has been a KLM pilot for 21 years

22.07 - Alex rediscovers ORY, Paul aborts landing at LIN

27:24 - FRA tunnel, new MUC terminal, carry-on ads

• airport.com/en/flights---more/transfer.detail.suffix.html/article/flights-and-more/services-a-z/easy-travel/transfer-at-fra.html">Frankfurt Airport - Transferring at FRA
• New satellite terminal opens at Munich Airport

31:33 - boarding e-gates, status boarding

36:43 - Expertflyer, EDI cargo bay, BA 767

• Flight Availability | Upgrades | Frequent Flyer Information

40.33 - British Airways IT super crash

• British Airways: turmoil continues after IT failure grounds flights | Business | The Guardian
• BA computer crash: passengers face third day of disruption at Heathrow | Business | The Guardian

57:00 - VVIP 380, BA Comac, Boeing versus Bombardier

• EBACE: Four used A380s offered to head-of-state market
• AirAsia’s Fernandes says it’ll be `foolish’ not to consider C919
• Boeing's trade dispute ensure Bombardier doesn't become another Airbus - Business Insider

1:01:28 - JetLovers

• JetLovers - Your Flight Club

1:02:34 - Berlin SXF, Tempelhof, BER

• Berlin’s Airport Debacle: Five Years Late and Counting - Bloomberg

1:10:04 - Old ATH, FRA

• Ellinikon International Airport - Wikipedia

1:11:02 - Next flights, LATAM 787, AF 787

• My review of LAN/LATAM's flatbed flight from Madrid to Frankfurt
• Air France Dreamliner 787 arrives in London!

01:14:54 - Mastication Nation*

• Mastication Nation - Food without the fuss. | Free Listening on SoundCloud

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01:58 - Disruptive passengers, Delta, social media

09:17 - United, conditions of carriage, culture

• Contract Of Carriage | United Airlines

24:32 - Southwest kindness, Ryanair song

• Southwest Airlines Goes Above and Beyond to Help Passenger
• ryanair-flight-attendant-asks-man-to-open-bag-and-soon-the-whole-plane-is-singing-35688499.html">WATCH: Ryanair flight attendant asks man to open bag - and soon the whole plane is singing - Independent.ie

26:09 - LAX private terminal, ANA banana, C919

• me-lopez-private-terminal-lax-0503-story.html">LAX's new private terminal for the rich and famous makes flying easier, but at a steep price - LA Times
• furious-Japanese-airline-gives-banana.html">Passenger furious as Nippon Airways gives him a banana | Daily Mail Online
• Could this new Chinese-made plane be Ryanair's staple aircraft?

29:45 - Norwegian Germany, Alex's mom flies Norwegian

• Norwegian evaluates long-haul flights from Germany | Airports & Routes content from ATWOnline

32:04 - LGW, e-gates

• Gatwick airport unveils a new generation of biometric gates. | Planet Biometrics News

36:17 - Reviews

38.21 - Paul's crazy travel day, HEL, CDG

• Connecting flights | Helsinki-Vantaa airport | Information and services | Finnair
• N1 shuttle bus (landside) - PARIS-CDG CHARLES de GAULLE AIRPORT

50:30 - Cathay Pacific, Betsy beer, The Pier

• Betsy Beer - Cathay Pacific - Life Well Travelled
• pier-first.html">The Pier, First | Airport lounge | Cathay Pacific

55:15 - HackHorizon, hackathon in a plane

• Hack Horizon - TravelTech hackathon on a plane from Hong Kong to London.

1:07:25 - BUD

• Budapest Airport

1:12:10 - Next flights

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00:00 - Introduction, latest travels

02:54 - Trillions in the sky

• There Is Almost 2 Trillion USD of Planes in Our Skies - Travel Stats Man

03:56 - Alex discovers the AY 350, new LHR CX lounge

• The new Finnair Airbus A350 XWB flights available now | Finnair
• Pacific-reopens-Heathrow-lounge-following-a-spectacular-makeover.html">Cathay Pacific reopens Heathrow lounge following a spectacular makeover

09:14 - Paul flies BA business, First Wing, Iberia

• Club World | Business class | British Airways
• The First Wing | British Airways
• Review: Iberia Business Class A340 New York To Madrid - One Mile at a Time

19:56 - Qatar consolidates its UI, BA timeline view

• Introducing the Oryx One Smartphone App - Qatar Airways In-Flight Entertainment - YouTube
• British Airways app | Information | British Airways

21:55 - United re-accommodation, US airline market

• ceo-says-airline-had-to-re-accommodate-passenger-and-twitter-is-having-a-riot.html">United CEO says airline had to 're-accommodate' passenger, and the reaction was wild
• A Law That Changed The Airline Industry Beyond Recognition (1978) | From The Archives
• merger-economy-opinions-contributors-lee-ohanian.html">Another Too Big To Fail Firm
• Stanford Prison Experiment
• airlines-video-stroller.html?_r=0">American Airlines Suspends Flight Attendant After Altercation Over Stroller - The New York Times

38:40 - Electronics ban controversy

• 2017 electronics ban - Wikipedia

48:30 - Level, IAG strategy, M&S food, toilet roll

• IAG to announce details of foray into low-cost, long-haul market | Air Traffic Management content from ATWOnline
• British Airways' parent company IAG launches new airline called Level - Business Insider
• Details Of LEVEL, IAG's New Transatlantic Low Cost Airline - One Mile at a Time
• New IAG Airline Level sells 52,000 tickets on Day One | No Mas Coach!
• ‘To fly, to starve’ – BA cabin crew deserve better | Letter | Business | The Guardian
• fury-as-british-airways-flights-run-out-of-food-and-toilet-roll-a3489341.html">Passengers' fury as British Airways flights 'run out of food'' | London Evening Standard
• cut-frills-causing-dismay-staff.html">BA cut back on further frills causing dismay among staff | Daily Mail Online
• selected-quotes-iag-2016-annual-report.html">Selected quotes from the IAG 2016 Annual Report - FlyerTalk Forums
• mail.com/2017/03/19/british-airways-sarnies-saga/">British Airways and the sarnies saga - Cyprus Mail
• airways-faces-300-000-134411520.html">British Airways faces £300,000 bill for flight to Barbados without enough toilet paper

58:54 - Alitalia bankrupt, EY-EK rapprochement, LH Senator

• Alitalia's new survival plan: deep cuts, budget flights
• REPORT: Emirates and Etihad Considering Merger - View from the Wing

1:03:06 - HackHorizon, hackathon in a plane

• Hack Horizon - TravelTech hackathon on a plane from Hong Kong to London.

1:05:54 - ANA Star Wars

• C-3PO Joins the ANA Star Wars Fleet - AirlineReporter : AirlineReporter

1:36:36 - ISG

• e.htm">Ishigaki Airport

1:17:04 - Next flights

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00:00 - Introduction

01:00 - BER pushed back, Berlin strikes, Layovers hiatus

• Berlin's chaos airport sacks boss amid leadership struggle - The Local
• Berlin Brandenburg Airport now just 6 years behind schedule - eTurboNews (eTN)
• Flights cancelled at Berlin airports as ground crews start strike | News | DW | 13.03.2017
• Berlin Airport Strike Strands Patrons at Biggest Travel Show - Bloomberg

03:33 - New QR business seat

• Qatar Air Unveils Double-Bed Seats That Turn Into Meeting Areas – Skift
• Qatar Air Debuts Double-Bed Seats That Morph Into Meeting Room - Bloomberg

06:37 - World's worst airports

• Does the UK really possess three of the world's worst airports?
• Berlin's 2 main airports were ranked among 10 worst in the world - Business Insider

08:28 - SkyTrax Best Airports, Terminals, Food, etc.

• The World's Top 100 Airports in 2017

14:35 - CPT, Attache and taxis versus Uber

• South African taxis block roads to main airport in Uber protest
• Cape Town Travel Guide - YouTube

15:52 - US infrastructure, world busiest airports

• America's infrastructure still rates no better than D+, engineering experts say | US news | The Guardian
• These Are the Busiest Airports in the World | Travel + Leisure

17:18 - LH future business class, 350, CX 777 premium economy

• LUFTHANSA Introduces New Business Class & Places First Class On The Endangered Species List - Lufthansa Flyer
• Blizzard Delays Lufthansa's A350 Debut In The USA - Lufthansa Flyer
• Cathay Pacific upgrades Boeing 777 premium economy - Australian Business Traveller

20:20 - SWISS engine change in the cold

• Replacing the World's Largest Jet Engine at 40-Below

23:13 - Cathay on-demand food, operating losses

• Cathay Pacific to trial business class dine on demand - Business Traveller – The leading magazine for frequent flyers
• ​Cathay dives to 2016 operating loss on competition woes

27:28 - ME3 slower growth, QR Indian carrier, United against Emirates

• The Middle East’s once fast-expanding airlines are coming under pressure
• As the skies above India rain money, Qatar Airways lines up a domestic airline — Quartz
• Qatar's Savvy as Indian Skies Crowd Over - Bloomberg Gadfly
• United Airlines employees to protest Emirates at Newark Airport - Business Insider

31:31 - New A380

• Airbus debuts A380plus with winglet extensions, more seats - Australian Business Traveller
• Airbus Is Considering An "A380-Plus," With Up To 50 More Seats - One Mile at a Time

32:54 - Blanket rage, cash in the plane

• Passenger causes plane to divert after he's charged $12 for a blanket - CNN
• Couple Leaves $166,000 Inheritance in Airplane’s Overhead Compartment | Travel + Leisure

34:40 - QR, Airbus NEOs, Boeing MAX, JetBlue, 777 glut

• airways-chief-says-not-120609707.html">Qatar Airways chief says will not take any Airbus A320neos in 2017
• Boeing: 737 MAX 9 Completes Successful First Flight
• Airbus A321neo Kicking Boeing MAX 9 Butt: Report - Market Exclusive
• MAX 10X
• Boeing defends 737 Max 10 after lessors demur
• 737-max-most-underrated-plane-of-all-time.aspx">The Boeing 737 MAX Is the Most Underrated Plane of All Time -- The Motley Fool
• JetBlue’s New Airbus Could Upend Travel to Europe - Bloomberg
• Sharp slowdown predicted in orders for big Boeing, Airbus jets | The Seattle Times

40:22 - 797, LX CS300

• ANALYSIS: Airline support gathers around Boeing MoM concept
• Swiss International Air Lines converting CSeries orders to larger CS300 | Montreal Gazette

43:41 - New Cyprus Airways, low WestJet

• New Cyprus Airways receives AOC | Airlines content from ATWOnline
• WestJet Denies Close Call Caught on Camera at St. Maarten

46:37 - Harrison Ford, Prepare for Impact app, Alitalia

8 Harrison Ford flies aircraft close to passenger plane – video | Film | The Guardian

• Harrison Ford in near-miss: 'Was that airliner meant to be underneath me?' | Film | The Guardian
• Prepare for Impact on the App Store
• 175049.php?uuid=AEyM29b">Alitalia’s liquidity is running out, the airline must find €1 billion to have a future

49:31 - US Travel Ban, US domestic IDs, EK US bookings

• Trump travel ban: Second US judge block new executive order - BBC News
• U.S. Citizens Now Being Forced To Provide Their Social Media Passwords Upon Return To U.S.
• Emirates' U.S. Bookings Fell HOW MUCH After The Travel Ban?! - One Mile at a Time

52:00 - Exploding headphones, Layovers 050 feedback, AVTalk

• Here's another thing to worry about: Getting burnt by exploding headphones
• Introducing AvTalk—the Flightradar24 Aviation Podcast – Flightradar24 Blog
• Yankee Flyers

57:17 - Listen to the Clouds, SFO observation deck

• Listen To The Clouds - Live as the world flies
• SFO gets public outdoor observation deck - TravelSkills

58:38 - DUS

• Dusseldorf Airport

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00:00 - Introduction

01:24 - ANA 380, Special livery, Drone Inspection, JAL pilots

• ANA unveils special livery for its new A380 fleet | Airbus Press release
• ANA tests drone's-eye view for plane inspections- Nikkei Asian Review
• JAL's novice pilots grounded by 2010 bankruptcy finally take wing | The Japan Times

05:30 - Cathay Pacific Beer, bubbly in the air

• Cathay Pacific creates craft beer for UK flights - Business Traveller – The leading magazine for frequent flyers
• Cathay Pacific Creates A Beer for 35,000 Feet - Travel Codex
• Spirits in the sky: What to drink at 30,000 feet | The Economist

08:32 - Air China Cathay Pacific merger rumor

• Breaking News - Air China to acquire Cathay Pacific Airways | Dr Marco Pearman-Parish | Pulse | LinkedIn

10:54 - Aboslute low cost Spring Airlines, China strategy

• 【春航】春秋航空官方网站‖飞机票查询预订_航班查询_特价机票_打折机票_国际机票预订_电子机票_机票预订_上海机票
• China’s HNA Group to buy 82.5% stake in Frankfurt-Hahn Airport | Airlines content from ATWOnline

14:55 - Qantas ultra long haul, ANA Mexico route

• Qantas announces the world’s longest direct flight | World Economic Forum
• All Nippon Airways launches its longest non-stop route

17:49 - Episode 049 feedback, reviews, chapters

• Chapters available on those apps: OverCast, DownCast, InstaCast, PodCat, iCatcher, RSS Radio on iOS, and AntennaPod on Android.
• Listen to layovers ✈︎ - air travel and commercial aviation online on TuneIn
• acast - Layovers

21:41 - Aer Lingus, Norwegian, new US routes, Easyjet

• Aer Lingus gave Norwegian Air a masterclass in sass on Twitter this evening
• Norwegian outlines 737MAX8 US routes from June 2017 :: Routesonline

25:28 - United, Munoz, 5th freedom routes, Open Skies debate

• United Airlines CEO Oscar Munoz interview - Business Insider
• JetBlue, Alaska, Atlas push back against US majors on Gulf issue | Open Skies content from ATWOnline

30:33 - New US travel ban, new TSA rules, EU travel ban

• President Donald Trump signs new travel ban, exempts Iraq Trump to unveil new travel ban Monday, without Iraq - CNNPolitics.com
• Revised executive order bans travelers from six Muslim-majority countries from getting new visas - The Washington Post
• Muslim-American Travelers Are Quietly Having Global Entry Privileges Revoked – Skift
• date-with-doctor-jellyfinger.html">TSA's new "pat-downs" are so invasive, airports are pre-emptively warning cops to expect sexual assault claims / Boing Boing
• Americans, Calm Down: You Don’t Need a Visa to Go to Europe | Foreign Policy

34:57 - Mouse ban, plane over-crowding

• Mouse on a plane grounds British Airways Heathrow flight - BBC News
• Pakistan airline admits taking extra passengers in aisle - BBC News

37:55 - Airmule, TripIt, Kayak, FlySMS, apps

• Airmule | The Smarter Way to Fly
• go-now-more-new-tripit-features.html?us=facebook&um=socialpost">Announcing Go Now & More New TripIt Features - TripIt Blog
• Flying App has landed
• Josh Parnham - TodayFlights
• FlySMS

42:50 - Paul flights, TripCase ADD, BA priority, Bluesmart ad, CS100 video

• SWISS C SERIES - PATROUILLE SUISSE AIRSHOW on Vimeo

49:24 - AMS biometric boarding, Air France new low cost

• Japan readies facial recognition at airports to stop terrorists- Nikkei Asian Review
• KLM tests boarding via facial recognition system
• Air France-KLM to cut costs further after profits rise 35%
• Air France plans “Boost” subsidiary launch this year - Business Traveller – The leading magazine for frequent flyers
• Air France-KLM's New Strategic Plan, Explained – Skift

52:55 - NRT, the extraordinary story of Narita

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00:00 - Introduction, feedback, reviews

05:43 - US border asking for passwords

• It’s official: Trump says he'll replace his travel ban with a new one - Vox
• 'Give Us Your Passwords' - The Atlantic
• I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again. Neither should you.
• How to Get Past Customs Without Giving Up Your Digital Privacy | WIRED
• to-cross-a-us-or-other-b.html">How to legally cross a US (or other) border without surrendering your data and passwords / Boing Boing
• enforcement-airport-phones.html">What Are Your Rights if Border Agents Want to Search Your Phone? - The New York Times
• trump-travel-ban-international-decline-0216-biz-20170215-story.html">After Trump ban, fewer foreigners showing interest in travel to U.S., except for Russians - Chicago Tribune

11:08 - Air Force One 747-8

• boeing-ceo-meet-again-to-talk-air-force-one-price-tag.html">Trump, Boeing CEO meet again to talk Air Force One price tag | Fox News

12:15 - Lufthansa 747-8, Fashion Week, 350-900, EU

• Lufthansa ® - New York Fashion Week
• Lufthansa's mediocre business class problem bites on the A350 - Runway GirlRunway Girl
• Exclusive: EU sharpens competition tools to face Gulf carrier challenge | Reuters

15:16 - Lufthansa booking API, mystery bookings

• Lufthansa allows third parties to sell seats via its API - Tnooz
• Blind Booking - Booking - Eurowings

19:05 - Jet Airways intercept over German airspace

• German Eurofighters Intercept Non-Responsive Boeing 777 And It Was Caught On Camera – Avgeekery.com – News and stories by Aviation Professionals

20:55 - Boeing 787-10 rollout

• Boeing: 787-10 Rollout

23:15 - SWISS Breitling 777-300ER watch, Bremont

• breitling.com/en/">Swiss Breitling
• breitling.com/en/order">Order - Swiss Breitling
• Wright Flyer | Aviation Watches | Bremont Chronometers

25:18 - Alternatives to Airbus and Boeing, A320

• The comfort of strangers: Passengers like flying on planes not made by Boeing or Airbus | The Economist
• ANALYSIS: Three decades of the A320, by the numbers

27:51 - United Polaris, Saks amenity kits

• United Officially Launches New Plane With Business Class Sleep Cubicles – Consumerist
• United's new Boeing 777-300ER, Polaris cabin gets splashy debut flight
• Luxury Brands Aim to Stand Out with Smart Partnerships

31:00 - Delta food, profit-sharing, Fortune ranking, pilot meltdown

• Delta Air Lines Is Bringing Back Free Food in Coach on 12 Routes – Skift
• Why Delta is giving $1.1 billion to our employees today | Ed Bastian | Pulse | LinkedIn
• Delta Air Lines Employees Get $1.1 Billion in Profit Sharing | Fortune.com
• Delta Named the World’s Most Admired Airline | Travel + Leisure
• airlines-pilot-removed-donald-trump-hilary-clinton-divorce-a7576416.html">Pilot removed before flight after complaining about Donald Trump and her divorce | The Independent

33:45 - Alex BA compensation

• Air passenger rights - Your Europe
• Contacting British Airways Customer Relations (complaints, comments or claims)

36:55 - Korean Air taser

• Korean Air used electric stun gun on five passengers - BBC News

*39:29 - Alcohol in the air, Qatar longest flight, BA baggage handlers *

• Pilot accused of being drunk after video shows him staggering through airport | World news | The Guardian
• BBC - Future - Why astronauts are banned from getting drunk in space
• World's longest non-stop commercial flight lands in New Zealand | World news | The Guardian
• baggage-handlers-told-STOP-urinating-plane-holds.html#ixzz4ZHgAK7rP">BA baggage handlers told to STOP urinating in plane holds | Daily Mail Online

43:08 - Nuts allergy pre-boarding

• Food allergy group files federal complaint over American Airlines' peanut policy | American Airlines | Dallas News
• Group Files Complaint About American Airlines’ Allergy Pre-Boarding Policy – Consumerist

45:21 - Alex suprises his son with a flight to AMS on BA

48:57 - Dubai pilotless flying taxi, packing drones to travel

• Dubai to operate first single passenger Autonomous Aerial Vehicle - Technology - Dunya News

50:31 - The coat to replace your carry-on, Uber flying car, CPT Thunder City

• This trench coat's enormous pockets probably won't save you from baggage fees - The Verge
• Uber Hires Veteran NASA Engineer to Develop Flying Cars - Bloomberg
• adventures.com/cape-town-jets-news-2010aug.html">No More Thrilling Jet Sorties from Thunder City

53:06 - Paris-Orly ORY

• Review: British Airways 212 Orly West Lounge and Club Europe Paris-Orly - London Heathrow - View from the Wing

59:00 - Conclusion, next flights

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00:00 - Introduction, Layovers reviews

• Reviews of layovers ✈︎ - air travel and commercial aviation on podbay
• archive2.com/?u=3f5415ae3acd71b4d14414fb6&id=356ce82643">The Travel Massive Newsletter

02.51 - US Travel Ban

• Trump travel ban: Here's what you need to know - CNNPolitics.com
• US airports on frontline as Donald Trump's travel ban causes chaos and protests | US news | The Guardian
• I am an Immigration Officer who works with DHS and has worked extensively with our refugees/Asylees. There's a lot of misinformation out there on BOTH sides. AMA : AMA
• Emirates Says Changed Pilot, Crew on U.S.-Bound Flights | Fortune.com

06:56 - US3 at the White House

• American airlines want Trump to take on their Gulf rivals - Feb. 7, 2017

07:56 New Emirates 5th freedom route, Delta

• Emirates to add non-stop Newark-Athens flights
• Emirates Says Flight Was Delayed After Delta Withheld $300 Spare Part - Bloomberg

09:19 - Norwegian US announcements

• Europe's best low-cost airline could be an issue for the Trump administration | 02/09/17 | Markets Insider
• Norwegian Air confirms Providence will be base for Europe flights
• Norwegian: We need Boeing 737MAX to sell $69 tickets to Europe - Business Insider

12:05 - 737 MAX 8 for intercontinental routes

• Boeing plans to deliver re-engined 737 in 2017 | Reuters
• Your Next Trans-Atlantic Trip May Be on Boeing’s Humble 737 - Bloomberg Quint

13:53 - Alex flies Thomas Cook to CPT

• Thomas Cook Flights – Fly Thomas Cook Airlines

18:00 - American drops IFE screens

• American Airlines getting rid of in-flight entertainment screens

19:07 - Air Canada unveils new livery

• livery.html">Air Canada Unveils New Livery Inspired by Canada
• Air Canada - Winkreative
• Internet Archive Wayback Machine

23:06 - Etihad, its CEO and Lufthansa

• Details Of The Expanded Partnership Between Etihad & Lufthansa - One Mile at a Time
• Etihad CEO James Hogan is quitting the company in 2017 - Business Insider

25:45 - Emirates fleet change 2007-2017

• network.com/airlines/infographic-emirates-fleet-changes-2007-17">Emirates' Fleet Changes, 2007-17

26:28 - Lufthansa app, Worldmate, Google Trips, Tripit

• Lufthansa myOffer - Lufthansa ® United States of America
• CWT to shut Worldmate travel concierge mobile app

28:20 - Paul crazy flights to MAD via ZRH and FRA

31:52 - More on travel planning apps

33:28 - MAD T2 and T3

• barajas.com/eng/madrid-airport-terminals.htm">Terminals T1, T2, T3, T4-T4S Madrid-Barajas Airport. Distribution of terminals

34:08 - Paul tests the Bombardier CS100

• Bombardier | The innovative ones | SWISS
• of-swiss.com/en/cseries">World of SWISS - Bombardier CSeries 100 - The latest aircraft in its class
• Onboard the SWISS CSeries Inaugural Revenue Flight - Airways Magazine

36:18 - SWISS Fear of flying course

• aviation-training.com/en/training/fear-flying-seminar">Fear of flying seminar | Swiss AviationTraining

37:55 - Schengen area, Momondo, Skyscanner

• Priceline pays $550 million to acquire European travel search firm Momondo | VentureBeat | Business | by Paul Sawers
• Skyscanner sold to China's Ctrip in £1.4bn deal | Business | The Guardian

39:26 - No wifi on Ryanair, BA Cityflyer, plane food

• Ryanair says no to on-board wi-fi, transatlantic routes - and flights from Waterford
• BA CityFlyer - Wikipedia
• BBC Radio 4 - The Kitchen Cabinet, Series 15, Woburn Abbey

41:28 - Paul continues to ramble about his loved Sony MDR-1000X

• Bluetooth Over-Ear Noise Canceling Headphones| MDR-1000X | Sony US

42:36 - The must-have button on every IFE, Turkish interface

43:54 - Amazon, Superbowl, ATL drones, Airbus self-flying taxis

• The Super Bowl halftime show drones weren't flying live - The Verge
• Lady Gaga's Super Bowl LI Halftime Show Drones Have a Bright Future | WIRED
• Drones help expand the world's busiest airport
• Airbus Is About To Build A Self-Flying Electric Robo-Taxi | Fast Company | Business + Innovation
• Amazon plans more than 200 daily flights from new cargo hub | Reuters

46:20 - Living in lounges

• Malaysian man jailed for living in executive airport lounges with fake boarding passes

47:20 - Cape Town CPT airport

52:17 - Conclusion, next flights

• airport.com/">Cape Town International Airport

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IATA

• IATA
• IATA - Environment
• IATA - Safety
• IATA - Fast Travel
• IATA - New Distribution Capability
• ICAO

GVA

• [Genève Aéroport](http://www.gva.ch/en/

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