In a double rule breaking season finale, Hamish goes over his 1 hour & 3 minute episode time limit AND talks to an expert! Our special guest is Dr Billy Garvey, a Behavioural Paediatrician at the Royal Children’s Hospital (Melbourne) and leading expert on childhood development. (And he’s also a dad).

As a wonderful surprise to us, it turns out Dr. Billy has listened to some of the podcast (which made Hamish blush) and upon Hames getting in touch with Billy, he told us something really interesting… that heaps of stuff our guest dads were stumbling across or bringing up anecdotally, actually had some scientific evidence behind it.

So we thought it might be really great to revisit some excerpts from previous episodes where our dads have dropped nuggets of gold and get Billy to explain the literal neuroscience behind it, describe why it’s great for our kids and help us all understand how small actions from us as parents can have outsized effects on our kids, now and for the rest of their lives. That’s worth going over an hour for, surely?!

Billy talks plainly and passionately about this subject and really, really knows his stuff.  Although, as the father of an 18 month old, he is also the first to admit that he’s still learning some tough practical lessons everyday.  We are so thankful to Billy for taking the time to listen to previous shows and sit down with Hame, and we think you’ll all agree what he chats about is both inspiring and practically very useful.

Billy has his very own podcast called Pop Culture Parenting which you can find HERE.  Check it out, it’s great!

And that’s the season. Thanks for listening! The messages you have sent in have been inspiring, informative, heartbreaking and some are just plain hilarious.  But the universal element is that everyone is trying to do better, by their own kids, by their parents, by their grandkids.  And it seems, thanks to our guests, this show has perhaps inspired some small actions that might lead to this.  So thanks for being part of the How Other Dads Dad community.  We really appreciate it and will do our best to get another season out later this year sometime.

Big thanks also to Tom, Tey & Darce. And to all the Mums!

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Decorated soldier, Mark Donaldson VC kindly joins Hame on the HODD couch to share tales from his dadding journey so far.

Mark shares his experience of trying to be available to his kids and playing and existing in their world, even if he’d just returned from a deployment.  The guys discuss the idea that all kids have “their version of trying” and the challenges of not projecting our own standards onto them (that we have probably only come to appreciate and understand in adulthood!). They finish off by discussing the power of adventure in creating memories and the benefit of getting kids into nature to build resilience and problem solving skills.

Mark is a man that probably subscribes to the mantra “Deeds, Not Words” and is never one to blow his own bugle. But as Australia’s first Victoria Cross recipient for over 40 years, he found himself in a unique position of notoriety and influence.   If you don’t know much about Mark, Hame does a lightning fast bio in the intro, quickly touching on his military record and also that he lost both his own parents at a young age.

Big thanks to Dono for sharing his stories with us and opening up about some really personal stuff.

As always - thanks to you guys for listening - There is just one more episode to come in Season 1 - and it’s a special edition ripper - make sure you subscribe so you don't miss out!

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Creativity and dadding combine in a fascinating chat with prolific singer songwriter, Ben Lee. 

After a chance meeting between Hame and Ben, where the chat quickly turned to their kids, Hame had the good sense to ask Ben if he’d like to slightly formalise the conversation and record it. And thanks to Ben’s generosity, we’ve got Episode 10 as a result!

From his search for a different kind of life and love with wife Ione, to taking on the responsibility of a stepdaughter and his early missteps - Ben talks openly and passionately about his dadding style and journey.  The fellas swap notes on fostering creativity in kids, but also creativity in general and how to, as Ben says, “make beautiful mistakes”.

Ben’s honesty definitely opens up a whole bunch of news ideas and questions that we haven't really covered in the show thus far, and we are of course super thankful that he took the time to sit down and chat with Hame.

Info on Ben and his new album I’m Fun is lee.com/">HERE

Ben & Ione’s Podcast is HERE

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Australian Test Cricket Captain, Pat Cummins was rated the world's best bowler in March 2022.  But at the very same time, he was a brand new parent trying to figure out how this dadding thing works.

Pat very kindly sat down with Hame to chat about his first year of being a dad. The pain of extended time apart from family, the challenge of making time count when he is at home and the inspiration that his own parents give him (even if they did forget his little sister at soccer practise once - but he is one of 5 kids, so cut ’em some slack we say).  

The guys also chat about the benefit of diabolically long & boring road trips, and how David Warner has shown Pat how to show up for your kids even in the middle of a test match.  Hamish also shows his age by having to explain to Pat what the film Two Hands is about, and why he can’t leave his phone on the beach while he swims.

Pat’s dadding journey may have just started, but there are great take-aways for everyone in this chat, and we are of course super grateful that he took the time to share his dadding hopes and dreams with Hame.

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A legend of Australian comedy, Hughesy is used to dealing with a tough crowd at times.  But it seems his three kids provide the best heckles!

Hamish was backstage at Rove many years ago when Hughesy and his wife Holly brought their very fresh newborn baby in, and it all seemed very grown up…especially for Hughesy!  Since then, Dave has had two more kids, and away from the microphone Hamish has had the great pleasure of chatting with Hughesy about his very thoughtful and highly empathetic approach to dadding.

In this very funny, yet simultaneously wisdom-filled episode, Hughesy talks to Hame about some core beliefs that he is really trying to instil in his kids (and how they just tell him to shut up!). Dave talks about managing his very precious ego (which again, his kids rip into) and he also divulges a habit he definitely does not want his kids to pick up.

As always, Hughesy is honest and hilarious, but you’ll also hear that he is really attuned to his kids' needs, and we are super grateful that he was willing to share his dadding wisdom with us.

Thanks again for all the emails - you can drop us a line at howotherdadsdad.com

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Fresh off winning the AFL Grand final in 2021, Max Gawn hit the jackpot again three weeks later with the birth of his first child.

Captain of the Melbourne Football Club, five time All Australian Ruckman, and all round good guy, Max first became friends with Hame because they liked riding bikes up big hills. Now they share stories about their other passion… not the Melbourne Football Club (this time), but their kids.

When we recorded this episode, Max’s son was still only 7 months old, so he was super new to the whole dadding thing.  But his insights are great, and it’s clear the same dedication and thoughtfulness that has taken him to sporting greatness is now being applied to his dadding.

In this episode, Max and Hame talk about the ongoing challenge of remaining present with your kids, how modern parenting fits with a career in the AFL and what gold standard dadding looks like to Max.  Hame also has a bit of a laugh at the fact Max still thought he had a say about what goes on in his life, and that he could keep going to Oktoberfest.  How cute.

Max doesn’t need much of a bio.  He’s one of the AFL’s brightest stars. He captained Melbourne to their first premiership in 57 years, and has led his resurgent side with a humility and humour that sets him apart in the elite sporting world.

Show Notes:  As Hame so professionally mentioned, you can get in touch with us at howotherdadsdad.com - and we really really love it when you do, so thank you!

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Nazeem Hussain is stand-up royalty in Australia and a perennial headliner of festivals at home and abroad.  But perhaps his biggest gig is being a dad to two young kids.  

Naz and Hame laugh a lot in this episode, but Naz also generously shares stories from his childhood, which largely saw him and his sister raised solo by their Mum.  He talks about seeking out father figures as a kid, and now as a father himself, the search for dadding wisdom continues (which mostly consists of him reading just the first few pages of tons of parenting books!)  

Naz is a guy that obviously takes his dadding gig really seriously, thinks deeply about how to nail it everyday, and peppers Hame with some great questions of his own.  The guys swap tips on how to safely throw a kid in the air, lament the sheer panic of being poorly judged if your kid acts up in the playground, and debate the Newtonian aspects of gravity as a metaphor for constant inescapable love. Of course.

Naz has created, written and starred in hit TV shows like Orange is the New Brown and Legally Brown, hosts a bunch of great podcasts, most recently The Pineapple Project, has a stand-up special on Netflix, has a released a brand new kids book and regularly pops up as a guest on pretty much every funny TV show in Australia. He’s also just a really great guy, and we massively appreciate him sharing his dadding stories with us.

Show Note:  To cure Hame’s super sloppy hearsay plug for Naz’s latest special, HERE is a link to it - it’s on youtube and it’s free!

And lastly, at risk of repeating ourselves…. Thanks for all the lovely emails.  We really do appreciate people taking the time to get in touch and sharing their thoughts and stories with us.

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With his famed restaurant Attica, Ben Shewry is a guy that has made an indelible mark on the culinary world through his creativity, dedication & undoubtedly some really deep thought. As a mate, Hamish has been lucky enough to see Ben apply this same thoughtful approach to his Dadding over the years, and in this episode he really does get some golden practical tips on opt-in-parenting from Ben.  We just made up “opt-in-parenting”... not sure it’s a thing?  But maybe it could be?

In this episode, Ben shares some of his tried and tested techniques for connecting with kids through enshrining one-on-one time.  He discusses encountering feelings of frustration as a parent, and being ill-equipped to deal with some of the challenges of being a relatively young dad.  And in one particularly insightful moment, he discusses the power of forgiveness for not only your kids… but also yourself. It’s some deep stuff from Ben… but, it is also super practical and simple - and dare we say… delicious.  Ben!  What a guy!

Show Note:  This interview was recorded before The Bear came out, otherwise we would have asked Ben a bunch of questions about that as well. And Hame would have said “Yes chef!” the whole time

As always - thanks again for all the emails that are coming in from dads, mums, grandparents and maybe-one-day parents.  There is some heartfelt, funny and inspiring stuff being sent in - so from us, sincere appreciation for taking the time to get in touch.

You can reach us at howotherdadsdad.com -  and to stay up to date by subscribing wherever you get your pods.

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As founder of The Resilience Project, a program that reaches 500,000 kids around Australia every year, Hugh van Cuylenburg has been talking to parents for ages.  However, he’s the first to admit being a parent is a whole different story! In this episode, Hugh shares with Hame some bloody funny stories, but also some really raw reflections on Dadding.  Hugh’s honesty is one of a kind, and it led to a chat with Hame that we are sure will leave many listeners nodding in silent appreciation of a shared experience.  There is also some much deserved praise of Bluey!

Hugh began his career as a school teacher and quickly became focused on improving the wellbeing of his students, eventually leading him to start The Resilience Project. In the early days this was little more than him driving all over the country delivering his message of Gratitude, Empathy and Mindfulness to whatever school would take him.  But Hugh’s unrivalled passion for his subject matter, matched with his highly personal approach to storytelling has now led to his talks selling out the Sydney Opera House. I guess what we are saying is… he’s really good.  He also co-hosts an excellent podcast called The Imperfects with his brother Josh and our good friend Ryan Shelton, which on the off chance you have not listened to, we highly recommend.  It’s great. They are great.

Note: Apologies, we do not have photos of Jarrod and Nicko in the show notes.

Further note:  Extra big thanks for all the amazing emails we are getting from both mums and dads.  We love ‘em - keep it coming  - Sorry there have not been many replies yet!

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Proud Wiradjuri man, father of 4 and icon of Australian journalism, Stan Grant goes deep with Hame in this episode with his philosophies on Dadding. He shares brutal stories about the Australia that his father was forced to endure, and for which he was preparing Stan to live in. He describes the pain of a relationship ending and how protecting the children was central. And as a dad to now older children, he reminds Hame that this thing called parenting goes by so, so, so fast and to treasure it, because you don’t get another shot!

Stan Grant is a celebrated journalist, commentator and community elder. From advising on Australian strategic defence policy, to powerfully advocating for First Nations rights or his hosting duties on Q&A, Stan is constantly expanding the conversation.  He’s published more books that some of us have read, and he’ll forget more stuff than Hamish will probably ever know. Basically he is super smart.  But more than that, he is super passionate, and as you’ll hear, his approach to Dadding is no exception - it’s something he cares deeply about and we really appreciate his generosity in sharing some of his wisdom with us.

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(And if you have dropped us a note already, apologies if we haven't replied to you yet… the response has been amazing!  And we are slow readers)

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