Today Katie is joined by longtime friend and musician, model, and designer, Mike Scocozza. Katie and Mike reminisce about what it was like meeting and working together at the OG Cheesecake Factory. Spoiler alert, it wasn’t the right fit for either of them. Mike explains exactly how he ended up on America’s Next Top Model, what his experience on the show was like, and who it was that gave him the best advice. He dives into the shooting schedule, what it was like to be the oldest contestant, and how it felt to be judged for something he had 0 experience in. Katie and Mike catch up on what he’s doing now, his menswear line, trying on new hats, and why you should only be doing something until you don’t enjoy doing it anymore. They share their mutual rage for incredibly mundane, small things, and if you do too, you’re gonna love this week’s episode!

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