The man who helped launch Extinction Rebellion, Rupert Read, says for too long the choices on climate action have been limited to either consumer choices or radical protests. He says there needs to be a space for action between these two alternatives. So Read has started The Climate Majority Project – a new approach to gain broad-based consensus on how to meaningfully respond to the crisis. And he plans to take it to the world.

Guest: Emeritus Professor Rupert Read, co-author and editor of 'The Climate Majority Project — Setting the Stage for a Mainstream, Urgent Climate Movement,' published by London Publishing Partnership.