Car sales are up during the pandemic, in part because people are afraid to fly and take public transportation. New cars, trucks, and SUVs are becoming more reliable every year. So the auto industry isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.

On this episode, host Claire Thornton is joined by USA TODAY business reporter Nathan Bomey to discuss how different industries are pivoting during the pandemic, including auto.

In-person shopping on Black Friday was "the quietest in 20 years," according to a report by Coresight Research, which tracks retail data. But online retail broke records last week.

Nathan also explains how General Motors is making a foray into the insurance industry by launching OnStar Insurance early next year.

In a finale segment, Claire tries to guess the most reliable and least reliable vehicles for 2021, using a slate of options supplied by Nathan from the Consumer Reports Auto Reliability rankings. Then, Nathan reveals how many vehicles Claire labeled correctly.