When the Chinese dreamed up the terrible threat "may you live in interesting times" they were probably thinking about a year like 2020. In a world that's been locked down, divided and cut off, it's hard to find the silver lining. But - in the spirit of looking on the bright side of life - it can't be denied it's been a terrific year for New Zealand films and TV dramas and comedies. The big success story has been gang drama Savage, but there have been plenty more this year - notably This Town and Baby Done. Sandy Gildea, Executive Director of the Screen Production and Development Association of New Zealand, and Vicki Pope, the producer of Savage discuss.