A shout out from the New Zealand Book Council for men who're not interested in books, is getting lots of applicants. That ties in with research indicating that men are more reluctant readers and are reading even fewer books now than in past years. "Wanted. Men! Are you, or do you know a bloke who doesn't like to read?" was the Book Council's headline on social media. It's going to bring a panel of men together in a pub several times during the year, to talk about books and reading. Matthew Dallas who's a tradesman and father to a two year old son, was one of the first to sign up and speaks to us, alongside Jo Cribb from the Book Council.