The progress that has been made by the gay rights movement can sometimes obscure the work that is still left to be done. In his new book, Out of the Shadows: Reimagining Gay Men’s Lives (2019, Farrar, Straus, & Giroux), Walt Odets addresses the hardships gay men continue to face and the dangers of overlooking them.  In our interview, we discuss the continued relevance of the AIDS epidemic as well as the difference between 'gay' and 'homosexual.' This interview will be relevant to gay men and those who care for them, as well as those interested in changing social norms around sexual orientation. Eugenio Duarte, Ph.D. is a psychologist and psychoanalyst practicing in Miami. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/psychology