On the heels of the disturbing revelation that a noose was left in NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace's garage, Mark talks with Andrew Lawrence of MediaMatters.org, who says there's no difference between those who support the confederacy and those who support Trump--it's his ironclad base. The two also do some unpacking of recent Tucker Carlson broadcasts, which come complete with politicians suggesting that those considered "high risk" for coronavirus should sacrifice their lives for the economy and Carlson himself pushing the conspiracy that Black Lives Matter protests have the goal of white genocide. This episode has some heavy stuff but Andrew does not fail to bring some comedic relief--especially when he calls Trump a "tub of goo." Executive Producer: Adell Coleman Producer: Brittany Temple Distributor: DCP Entertainment For additional content: makeitplain.com  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy