Jacquelyn Gill and Andy Revkin talk with Richard Heinberg of the Post Carbon Institute about the dangers of relying on technology to bail us out when it comes to climate change. We also hear the late Pete Seeger's thoughts on science. Links!: http://noapp4that.org/ More of Andy's conversation with Seeger on the Future and the Internet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTpkKt0B4SI&t=120s https://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/on-flu-strains-folkies-and-faith-in-science/?_r=0 Population scenarios: research.org/volumes/vol28/39/28-39.pdf">http://www.demographic-research.org/volumes/vol28/39/28-39.pdf https://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/25/the-population-cluster-bomb/