We all want to know what’s next so Andy calls up Zeke Emanuel, someone who spends a lot of time thinking about just that. Zeke was a special advisor to President Obama and now advises Vice President Joe Biden's coronavirus task force. Andy and Zeke look ahead at what might happen with COVID-19 in the late fall and winter, at what we hope to learn about what COVID-19 does to the human body in the next few years, at how effective a vaccine might be, and at what may change with a Biden victory in November.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

• Learn more about Zeke’s comprehensive COVID-19 vaccine plan here: https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/healthcare/reports/2020/07/28/488196/comprehensive-covid-19-vaccine-plan/. 
• This article outlines how 11 top-level experts (including Zeke) envision the end of the COVID-19 pandemic: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/09/25/how-covid-19-pandemic-ends-421122 
• Check out this Atlantic article in which Zeke says if you can grocery shop in person, you can vote in person: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/voting-during-pandemic-pretty-safe/616084/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share. 
• Read Andy’s article about how soft science - not just traditional biomedical science - is needed to rescue the US from COVID-19: https://jamanetwork.com/channels/health-forum/fullarticle/2771804 
• Here is Zeke’s New York Times Op-Ed with Angela Duckworth and Lyle Ungar on the psychology of wearing masks: masks.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/27/opinion/coronavirus-masks.html 
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• Pre-order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response, here: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 

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