It’s June 21st. This day in 1790, in lower Manhattan, Alexander Hamilton and James Madison sit down in a meeting brokered by Thomas Jefferson to work out a major compromise involving the Treasury department and the location of the US Capitol.

Jody, Niki and Kellie discuss the meeting, the myths around it, and how it was ultimately a major test of a new democracy in action.

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