In this episode, Carlton talks with Josh Wolford about his background in anthropology and his work on the relationships between Anishinaabe cosmology and the geologic/climactic events in the upper Great Lakes. Specifically on how they relate, where this fits in anthropology, ethno-geoarchaeology, and how we can look at other Indigenous creation stories for clues to our Paleolithic past. If you have left a podcast review on iTunes or Spotify, please email us at alifeinruinspodcast@gmail.com so we can get shipping information to send you a sticker. If you are listening to this episode on the "Archaeology Podcast Network All Shows Feed," please consider subscribing to the "A Life in Ruins Podcast" channel to support our show. Listening to and downloading our episodes on the A Life in Ruins channel helps our podcast grow. So please, subscribe to the A Life in Ruins Podcast, hosted by the Archaeology Podcast Network, on whichever platform you use to listen to us on the "All Shows Feed." Please support our show by following our channel. Literature Recommendations * Talking Rocks: Geology and 10,000 Years of Native American Tradition in the Lake Superior Region by: Ron Morton and Carl Gawboy - Illustrations by Carl Gawboy [https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/talking-rocks] * Ojibway Heritage by Basil Johnston [https://www.nebraskapress.unl.edu/bison-books/9780803275720/] * The Prehistory of the Burnt Bluff Area by James E. Fitting, Charles E. Cleland, et al. [https://www.press.umich.edu/11396587/prehistory_of_the_burnt_bluff_area] Transcripts For rough transcripts of this episode go to https://www.archpodnet.com/ruins/133 Guest Contact * Instagram: @jmwolford * Email: jmwolford51@gmail.com Contact * Email: alifeinruinspodcast@gmail.com * Instagram: @alifeinruinspodcast [https://www.instagram.com/alifeinruinspodcast] * Facebook: @alifeinruinspodcast [https://www.facebook.com/alifeinruinspodcast] * Twitter: @alifeinruinspod [https://www.twitter.com/alifeinruinspod] * Website: www.alifeinruins.com [https://www.alifeinruins.com/] * Ruins on APN: https://www.archaeologypodcastnetwork.com/ruins * Store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/alifeinruins/shop ArchPodNet * APN Website: https://www.archpodnet.com [https://www.archpodnet.com/] * APN on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/archpodnet * APN on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/archpodnet * APN on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/archpodnet * Tee Public Store [https://www.teepublic.com/stores/archaeology-podcast-network?ref_id=5724] Affiliates * Wildnote [http://www.wildnoteapp.com/] * TeePublic [https://www.teepublic.com/?ref_id=5724&ref_type=aff] * Timeular [https://timeular.com/ref/chriswebster/] * Motion [https://www.archpodnet.com/motion]