In this episode, we reverse the usual roles: today’s host is ECFR’s Research Director Jeremy Shapiro and Mark Leonard tries out the role of guest. They discuss the surprising findings of ECFR’s latest public opinion poll on the Russia-Ukraine conflict. In recent weeks, many commentators, including this podcast’s interim host, have focused on Europe’s divisions and lack of agency in the Russia-Ukraine crisis. But Mark Leonard and Ivan Krastev demonstrate that there exists a surprising consensus and even resolve within the European public when it comes to the possibility of a Russian invasion of Ukraine. Together, Jeremy and Mark discuss the report’s key conclusions and how European policymakers might adjust their policies to reflect the public mood it reveals. This podcast was recorded on 10 February 2022. Further Reading: The crisis of European security: What Europeans think about the war in Ukraine by Ivan Krastev and Mark Leonard: https://buff.ly/3uHq60V Why Europe has no say in the Russia-Ukraine crisis by Jeremy Shapiro: https://t.co/o7vYzXo2sq Bookshelf: After Life by Ricky Gervais (TV Series) Termination Shock by Neal Stephenson © Image byVolodymyr Tarasov / Avalon / Photoshot / Picture Alliance