This week we're tackling Steven Pinker's 900 page dissection of the reasons why violence, torture and war have declined over the last 10,000 years. Was it an indeterminate mixture of politics, economics, technology and serendipity?  Or did some European guys write some books that said murder was bad?Special thanks to Philip Dwyer, Eleanor Janega, David M. Perry and Doug Thompson for help researching and fact-checking this episode!

Where to find us: 

• Peter's other podcast, 5-4
• Mike's other podcast, Maintenance Phase

Sources:

• The Darker Angels of Our Nature
• libre.pdf?1652909631=&response-content-disposition=inline%3B+filename%3DGetting_medieval_on_Steven_Pinker_Violen.pdf&Expires=1706305247&Signature=HDeNZt8eD~rK9noHyc4mMvYj796byUGK~NGTGkaDAykbUQsIXSa2BQhJFbZFP8P39m7d3UQ56qkTKoe0ngYx47Yy5liASTyt4zDyzIvuhDj-STW8d5fJiNiW37P9eaD0clCetaWnX5Beoc4bGAPc4S7EcY10a4Uos6qAiuRJP1QREyVAqBeRxr3zUfe9hfr8b5PR-vC-Z-qXq1bjTV-AMd8-9HC5EF0Y4bifH8pHT-YsQZqhUxWSsGtPeBukPED8sDEry4FIb6m5lzVwgISBJ-gDOO1j4DumSkNExxHBKLo~-ZjmO9YdRnSBWAyGYGQFw5WfomkAmPnGv9daRR-eLw__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA">Getting Medieval On Steven Pinker
• The Decline of Violence in the West: From Cultural to Post-Cultural History
• libre.pdf?1535718694=&response-content-disposition=inline%3B+filename%3DWhitewashing_History_Pinkers_Mis_Represe.pdf&Expires=1706305239&Signature=Xx-Dfv413e1Ychl7PkXJhnUI1glGXJv94G4jJABo5V312Mhtn7asdL49LwDxbsyoDz1Z4gSTEWICT1HPYKWRnLeV5aIougwiuQdQWWBCBfUviZyxgZxxJ-ILZ9ZN3aUdY2pZ6Jwu~3sy~NxWxzmzL~1C7LCQQw38ilLXqdZ606wbrV1WJokvcY1K42Jjy0T1Ddg7a3vhTuh5cmhE8JVeUjuc5Jn295XdvA9XdNsex2n5T8VBfdYKqMOrYo5nRL5XMTaRHKGuKns8Sp4GOOUPtkRHjZ1OajYNSijZtqW9NN~zAhEccNVwRObUo0cxNxkM9FVUc8mvAH4617wulcUNEg__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA">Pinker’s (Mis)Representation of the Enlightenment and Violence
• Herding and Homicide: An Examination of the Nisbett-Reaves Hypothesis
• Peace in Our Time
• John Gray: Steven Pinker is wrong about violence and war
• The business class doesn't understand the Enlightenment
• Delusions Of Peace
• Pinker And Progress
• Norbert Elias and the History of Violence
• Modernization, Self-Control And Lethal Violence
• Explaining Long Term Trends in Violent Crime
• the-enlightenment-seriously-requires-talking-about-race.html">The Enlightenment’s Dark Side

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