For everyone who wanted more T-Bird in the Survivor off-season, your wish has been granted as we once again start up the series "Talking with T-Bird." Each episode, Rob Cesternino and Survivor: Africa's Teresa "T-Bird" Cooper will catch up with a former Survivor player and talk about anything and take listener questions. In the fifteenth episode of "Talking with T-Bird", Rob and T-Bird's guest is none other than Heidi Hamels. Rob and T-Bird speak with Rob's fellow castaway from Survivor: The Amazon, Heidi Hamels (formerly Strobel). Heidi lasted 36 days and came in fifth place on Survivor: The Amazon.