Today’s Daf Yomi pages, Chagigah 9 and 10, take to task one of the best-known bits of advice about whether, and how much, practice makes perfect. Stephanie Butnick joins us to talk about her days as an elite collegiate fencer, and what she learned about training to be the best. So, does doing something for 10,000 hours really make you great at it? Listen and find out. Like the show? Send us a note at takeone@tabletmag.com. Follow us on Twitter at @takeonedafyomi and join the conversation in the Take One Facebook group. Take One is hosted by Liel Leibovitz and produced by Darone Ruskay, Josh Kross, Robert Scaramuccia, Sara Fredman Aeder, and Quinn Waller. Check out all of Tablet’s podcasts at tabletmag.com/podcasts.