How can we reframe book marketing as a creative and essential part of the author life? How can we manage fear and self-doubt in order to write? How can we embrace our ambition and aim high while still managing the day to day writing life? Sarah Painter talks about all this and more in this interview. In the intro, Spotify launches audiobooks [audiobooks-test-161716154.html">Engadget] and is now the most popular podcast platform [The Drum]; Story Rubric and Non-Fiction Rubric on The Writers Ink Podcast; How to get paid for poetry [Ask ALLi]; plus, we're still in lockdown here in the UK, so you can get 50% off my ebooks and audiobooks with coupon LOCKDOWN at Payhip.com/thecreativepenn and www.TheCreativePenn.com/learn Today's show is sponsored by ProWritingAid, writing and editing software that goes way beyond just grammar and typo checking. With its detailed reports on how to improve your writing and integration with Scrivener, ProWritingAid will help you improve your book before you send it to an editor, agent or publisher. Check it out for free or get 25% off the premium edition at www.ProWritingAid.com/joanna painter.com/"> painter.com/">Sarah Painter is the author of urban fantasy and supernatural thriller novels, as well as nonfiction for authors, including, Stop Worrying; Start Selling: The Introvert Author's Guide To Marketing. She's also the host of The Worried Writer Podcast. You can listen above or on your favorite podcast app or read the notes and links below. Here are the highlights and full transcript below. Show Notes * Experience with traditional and indie publishing — and changing your mindset around marketing * Realizing the dream of hiring a spouse out of their day job * Acknowledging self-doubt and ways of dealing with it * Becoming intentional about who we listen to and whether they support our writing goals * The important pieces of book marketing that authors sometimes miss * A strategy for book covers that sell * Why introverts are perfectly suited to book marketing You can find Sarah Painter at painter.com">Sarah-Painter.com and on Twitter @sarahrpainter Transcript of Interview with Sarah Painter Joanna: Sarah Painter is the author of urban fantasy and s...