Sarah Gallagher brings us yet another totally different perspective on managing the careers (and sometimes more) of supremely talented musicians, in this, episode four of our first series. Sarah's biggest client is a real pop star, coming second on a UK reality TV show but took that and ran all the way with it... Olly Murs, platinum-selling, multi-number one smashing artist and TV star Olly Murs. Sophie and Sarah discuss Olly's career, her career, including her journey to working for over a decade with Modest Management (also home to One Direction and Little Mix) and all that entails, new motherhood, the day-to-day, and the future of management - a brilliant story of belief in herself and hard work.  Thanks so much for the support on the podcast so far, the listens, the messages, the ratings, we both really appriciate it.  Thanks to our sponsors AWAL, who empower artists with their unique distribution service, and The MMF, the Music Managers Forum for all their support.  Twitter / Instagram: @managethatpod Ally & Sophie