If you want to connect better on your dates, we're about to drop some techniques as we chat with journalist Celeste Headlee about how we can have conversations that matter. Heck even if you've been married for years, this episode is going to help hone those relational skills. We discuss how technology is helping and hurting communication, the differences between small talk and date talk, and how to have a better conversation with anyone – even if you don't agree with a damn thing they are saying.

TW: We discuss fertility / egg freezing in the intro of this episode. Skip this section if this is triggering in any way.

Check out Celeste's TED talk '10 Ways to have a better conversation' and get a copy of her book 'We Need to Talk: How to have conversations that matter' today.

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