Sue Robins is back on the show, this time to talk about the necessary changes we need to see in healthcare. Sue is a healthcare activist, speaker and author. Her latest book, 'Ducks in a Row: Health Care Reimagined,' is for everyone who is unhappy with healthcare. 'Ducks in a Row' offers a scrappy challenge to the established healthcare world. She talks to the fellas about a lack of humanity in healthcare, how healthcare is not a car factory and how the hero narrative in healthcare is actually doing healthcare workers a disservice. Her book is available January 18th — look for it at https://www.suerobins.com/