Tommy Vietor, former spokesperson for President Obama and the US National Security Council turned Podcaster (Pod Save America) joins co-hosts Michael Isikoff and Daniel Klaidman. They discuss Trump's comments about excepting political dirt from a foreign government, his attack's on the intel community and why we no longer talk about national security issues like drones. Then co-hosts of the podcast Words Matter, Joe Lockhart and Katie Barlow jump in to comment on the state of impeachment, court fights over subpoenas, as well as executive privilege.

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