Newt Gingrich is one of the most influential conservatives of our time, and now he serves on Donald Trump’s transition team. As the Speaker of the House during the Clinton Administration, Gingrich forced a shutdown of the federal government during a budget fight. He helped to change the two-party system from one of tension and coöperation to a game of refusal that’s more akin to war. But Gingrich has previously achieved bipartisan support for funding science, and he is now an adviser to Advocates for Opioid Recovery, a nonprofit that that promotes government action on the opioid epidemic. The organization emphasizes addiction treatment based on science, rather than on punishment. Gingrich joins the former Democratic congressman Patrick Kennedy and David Remnick in a discussion about the effort. Remnick asks Gingrich whether he's concerned about the Trump Administration's interest in scientific fact as a basis for policy-making.