Following the NCBP Virtual Midyear Meeting, Carl Smallwood hosts Chief Justice Bridget Mary McCormack and attorney Stephen Younger in a conversation highlighting their individual views on the justice gap, current regulatory innovations, and whether recent changes preserve the core values of the legal profession. Carl Smallwood is NCBP Past President and Executive Council member, and director of the Divided Community Project at the Ohio State University Moritz College of Law. Chief Justice Bridget Mary McCormack joined the Michigan Supreme Court in January 2013, and became Chief Justice in January 2019. Stephen Younger is a partner at Foley Hoag LLP in New York City.