As much as they would hate to admit it, both Donald Trump and Kamala Harris fit the definition of “coastal elite”. The United States presidential candidates are a wealthy New York businessman and reality TV star running against a San Francisco liberal with a career in public office. That’s why they’re both hoping their vice-presidential candidates and running mates will speak to a specific group of voters – the blue collar, working class area of the Midwest. And yesterday’s debate showed that both J.D. Vance and Tim Walz are taking that opportunity seriously. Today, ABC journalist and host of the Global Roaming podcast Geraldine Doogue, on how the two candidates are using their roots to appeal to voters in very different ways. Socials: Stay in touch with us on Twitter and Instagram Guest: ABC journalist and host of Global Roaming, Geraldine Doogue.