Mark Butler, the shadow minister for climate change and energy, speaks to Katharine Murphy about the government’s new national energy guarantee (Neg) and says it is lacking in detail. ‘This is the problem with what Malcolm Turnbull has done, he’s presented a letter from the energy security board to his minister as a policy. It’s not a policy, it hasn’t gone through proper cabinet processes, it hasn’t been modeled and it has been lumped on the states and territories that are the bodies that actually have to implement this sort of model.’