Comedian Kathy Griffin talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the notorious photo shoot that got her investigated by the Secret Service — and her new self-financed stand-up special, A Hell of a Story. In this episode: The notorious severed-head photo shoot; what happened after the initial wave of backlash; Griffin's run-ins with Donald Trump before he ran for president; why she believes the current battle with Trump is "historic"; Elon Musk; "I've been in Hollywood trouble, but never two federal agencies"; why she had to distribute her new stand-up special herself; does she regret taking the photo?; Anderson Cooper's reaction; Griffin's issues with Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey and why "he should resign"; how to regulate the social media companies; Griffin's thoughts on the 2020 candidates; speech should be regulated by social media first, not governments; "It took like a good week to talk my own mother out of the fact that I'm not in ISIS"; living next door to the Kardashians, and her other, crazier neighbor; what happens to Griffin's career now?; and advice for women entering the workforce. Today's show is brought to you by Microsoft Azure. Check out Azure.com/trial to sign up for a trial today! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices