Brotherhood Without Manners brings you the next chapter in George R.R. Martin's Game of Thrones with Jon 4. 

 

While training with the other boys in the yard, a new recruit joins them for his first day.

This poor lad catches some shit from Alliser Thorne, and has to square up or get beaten.

We dive into what made this craven SUCH a coward.

We get some Jon dreams going on, wonder what they could mean...

 

As always we induct some lucky character from this chapter to join us here in the heart of the Riverlands at the Brotherhood Without Manners campfire.

 

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my soda, can! called it out for you again

 

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[Music]

 

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what up and welcome to another episode

 

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of Brotherhood without manners a full

 

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Spoiler reread podcast about George RR

 

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Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire series

 

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we are beginning with a game of Thrones

 

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reading lots of chapters I'm Nate my

 

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co-host over here is my brother this is

 

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Zack Hale adventurer you turn into a

 

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wizened old mage shit that's pretty cool

 

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so co-hosting today is a wizened old

 

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mage known as Zack what happens so today

 

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we'll be reading john for but we do have

 

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a little bit of stuff to discuss

 

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beforehand i gasps sure whoa right in

 

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there man think of it as of recording

 

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this as we know we tend to record things

 

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a little bit earlier than we released

 

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them surprise surprise that's how time

 

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works and so as of recording this we're

 

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right there think of things things are

 

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really exciting I kicked the table it's

 

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the usual episode so yeah we're you know

 

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our episodes of released a while ago now

 

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but we're currently at season three or

 

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season eight episode 3 is the my god

 

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back and we're just catching the

 

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premiere of season 3 pretty cool it's

 

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don't you guys should watch it fucking

 

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shut up I'm trying to I'm trying yeah as

 

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a recording this season 8 episode 3 just

 

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aired the long night and it's getting a

 

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lot of hate but you know I already know

 

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what our feelings our episode and all

 

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that but we it's so good right now

 

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yeah that's a it's really keeping the

 

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fandom going crazy right now the whole

 

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series so hopefully now that I think by

 

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this time it's the seasons already the

 

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series is already old oh yeah yeah and

 

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so hopefully you know for those people

 

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that are have been with us for a while

 

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thanks for coming back but you know I

 

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feel like a lot of newer listeners might

 

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have joined us now that the show has a

 

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welcome welcome to that which you

 

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probably didn't

 

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and actually mean to join it was all

 

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accidental and now you're stuck don't

 

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well in your accidental stumblings you

 

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can hear from someone who's not us who

 

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had something to say about the show

 

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funny enough the email was called ramble

 

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random and bumbling thoughts from a fan

 

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hey so you know it's okay that I'm

 

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random and bumbling right now cuz it's

 

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been a long week yo so this is going to

 

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be we want to read out an email for you

 

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know anybody that wants to write in to

 

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us please do we always like to have the

 

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inductees and so we're definitely always

 

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looking for those writings so this

 

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person wrote in just should I read my

 

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reading the whole email here or should I

 

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should I give them just the gist of

 

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things here so first of all big shout

 

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out to GG thank you so much we

 

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appreciate it and so the main thing I

 

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took from the email here is that and I

 

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replied to her but she pointed out that

 

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a few quite a few episodes back I think

 

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at this point but I don't actually

 

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remember exactly what episode it was I

 

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had referred to Arya as a Gryffindor

 

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shame on me I think that she cuz gg you

 

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know definitely said she's sly and

 

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resourceful she's a Slytherin her entire

 

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motivation to be a badass spawns from

 

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vengeful means not because of brave

 

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heroic intentions and so while I think

 

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to an extent that's true but I

 

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definitely feel as though she she

 

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encompasses the Slytherin better yeah

 

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yeah cuz she she does you know she's

 

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very loyal to her her family to her pack

 

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her group which is a Slytherin quality

 

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she's not boastful or prideful about it

 

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which is much more Gryffindor quality so

 

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you're right I stand corrected gg

 

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otherwise there was just some stuff

 

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about that episode from a few weeks ago

 

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sorry took so long for us to respond on

 

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episode but again we we pre record a lot

 

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of stuff so you know what can you do

 

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hopefully you're still listening at this

 

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point but you know we're also looking

 

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forward to those books coming out

 

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another

 

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ten years to answer the questions that

 

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were interested in but again thank you

 

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so much Gigi we appreciate it and hit me

 

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up again I appreciate all those little

 

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fan right back and forth so those are

 

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cool so we are again reading John for

 

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today yeah so if you joined us last week

 

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we were reading that five Ned was

 

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reading nook reading he was meeting

 

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great grand maester pycelle and

 

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discussing the circumstances of John

 

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Aaron's death the illness and visit with

 

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pycelle that John Aaron had you know so

 

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about the book yeah then on his way back

 

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Ned ran into arya doing her best water

 

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dancer impression and then returned to

 

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his solar I was told that little thing I

 

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wanted to meet him so he went and met

 

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little finger and little finger sort of

 

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pointed out that hey there's a spy and

 

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here's the spying you don't really know

 

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what's going on but you should send

 

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someone to talk to

 

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John Aaron Squire sir he with a veil and

 

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kind of get the lowdown there and we

 

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were left with Ned not really trusting

 

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anything around him except little

 

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fingers saying he trusted little finger

 

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fool and so yeah now we pick up with

 

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Jeanette bastard son John at the wall

 

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and John is currently showing Darien how

 

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to deliver a side stroke in the training

 

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yard

 

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Katinka tink yeah and this is when he

 

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notices attention has entered the odd it

 

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was it was a grin who pointed out that

 

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hey John did you see what walked into

 

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the training yard here maybe it was pip

 

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actually it was Darren Oh was there in

 

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here seven gods would you look at this

 

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John his he points out Samwell Tarly as

 

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we don't quite his name yet but John

 

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through the eye slits of his helm John

 

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sees the fattest boy he had ever seen by

 

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the look of him he must have weighed

 

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about twenty stone which for those who

 

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don't know a stone is about fourteen

 

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pounds a so he looks like he's about two

 

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hundred and eighty pounds almost 300

 

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pounds okay which I mean that's a dude I

 

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don't it's pretty unfortunate that in

 

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today's day and age at 280 pounds

 

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while it's big isn't exactly the fattest

 

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person I've ever seen by any stretch of

 

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the matter for his age I'm assuming he's

 

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like 16 or 17 isn't he now is he I think

 

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he was a bit older because it was like

 

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his 50 might be a little over something

 

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yeah I think you're right yeah but it

 

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says the fur collar of his embroidered

 

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surco was lost beneath the gym his face

 

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and he says that they had told me I was

 

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to come here for training and he kind of

 

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just says this I'm out - no in

 

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particular and pip points out that he's

 

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a lordling probably from somewhere near

 

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around her garden yeah pip has the the

 

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uncanny abilities to kind of just pick

 

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up on wherever somebody's actually

 

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traveled with summers there's a striding

 

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huntsman worked in scarlet thread on the

 

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breast of the fat boys Serco which will

 

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get more information on the Tarly

 

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schedule here at the moment so Alliser

 

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thorne looks over at this new recruit

 

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and he comes down hard they've run out

 

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of coaches and thieves down south now

 

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they send them so hey I did want to

 

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point out when pip was talking about

 

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where Sam Wells from he mentions you

 

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know don't sell somewhere near

 

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Highgarden yeah horn Hill it's like just

 

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south of Highgarden

 

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so like pip fucking nailed it was just

 

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sore like right fucking there on the on

 

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the DA practically so yes sir Alice is

 

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not too pleased seeing this this fat boy

 

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that he now has to train and John says

 

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that the or thinks that the new recruit

 

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had brought his own armor sword and this

 

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is fucked yo let him use his own armor

 

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cuz it's not black fuckin diet black

 

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paint it black like you're really gonna

 

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force him to squeeze his friggin sausage

 

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fingers into these pieces not welded

 

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together I actually disagree with you

 

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here like it's got his sigil and shit on

 

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it rip them off rip them off of like

 

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enameled armor yeah like chuck I mean

 

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give the steel that Donald no and let

 

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him make something of it I just weld it

 

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down to nothing get rid of the sigils

 

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paint it black you know well like

 

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i I I get it because it sort of reminds

 

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me of way more ROI so you know he showed

 

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up with a bunch of his shits sidled and

 

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everything and but he had the nice

 

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embroidered black stuff - well yeah it

 

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was all black like exam 3 little flashy

 

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anyway sir Alistair tells him to go over

 

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he equipped himself from the armory

 

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which takes half the morning because

 

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Donal know he has to modify breastplates

 

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stretch them out combine them to dress

 

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him he's a big dude so when he's finally

 

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armored Sam ends up looking more like an

 

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overcooked sausage about to burst its

 

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skin yeah that's fucked Ram yeah so sir

 

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Alistair tells Halldor to see what sir

 

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piggy can do and the fight lasts less

 

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than a minute before Sam is on the

 

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ground he was shaking I'm surprised it

 

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lasted that long

 

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oh yeah and blood is leaking through the

 

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his shattered helmet through his fingers

 

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as he lays claps on the ground

 

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apparently he took a nice good hearty

 

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fucking sword bash right - how many

 

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things so he's screaming out I yield I

 

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yield no more no but Alistair is like

 

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you'll fuck that hit him harder yeah and

 

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we should get on your feet rats and some

 

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of the other boys are laughing and yes

 

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or Alistair orders him to his feet and

 

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when Sam is still clinging to the ground

 

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Alice adjusters to hold her and tells

 

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him to hit him with the flat of your

 

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blade until he finds his feet and so

 

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Halldor does just a a light little tap

 

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and Thorne tells him that you you

 

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definitely can hit harder than that and

 

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hold her grips his sword with both hands

 

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and laps down on him and this time the

 

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blow splits the leather along his ass

 

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even with just the flat of the blade

 

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that's how hard he ends up hitting them

 

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so Sam is screaming this recruit is

 

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screaming John steps forward but pip

 

248

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grab stop pulls him back and and so the

 

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fat boy struggles to rise and he slips

 

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on the mud man I was talking mad shit

 

251

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like god you're a fucking asshole yes

 

252

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their piggy starting to grasp the notion

 

253

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again he tells him to hit him yeah so

 

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John this time ignores pip and he

 

255

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strides forward and he's like yo Halldor

 

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fucking chill man well we really get

 

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here this sort of division in

 

258

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nice watch because Rast the whole time

 

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is laughing and cut us off from ham and

 

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all this shit

 

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so we've get John side with like Pip and

 

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John who you really aren't enjoying this

 

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and want to stop it then we get Rast

 

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who's just loving it but you're right

 

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yeah john calls out all the rest is

 

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basically fuckin Draco Malfoy you two

 

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goddamn umbrage Alliser thorne there

 

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yeah just this little fan boy who's

 

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wanting to do well I actually hate play

 

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I don't think I think it works on rats

 

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and I don't think that analogy really

 

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works for thought no he's definitely not

 

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no no lion

 

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fuck no rat yeah but yeah Jon Snow calls

 

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how Halldor enough and how there looks

 

276

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up to thorne as Sookie is the commander

 

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there and Thorin kind of laughs and says

 

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the bastard speaks and the peasants

 

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tremble

 

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I am master-at-arms here Lord snow need

 

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I remind you but Jon ignores him and

 

282

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just tells holder look at him he yielded

 

283

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there's no honor in beating a pollen fo

 

284

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and so John goes and kneels down beside

 

285

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the boy and sir Alistair is just staring

 

286

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- all fuckin and of course Alastair are

 

287

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bastards in love and so he tells him

 

288

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show me your steel Lord snow so Jon

 

289

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helps the boy to his feet and draws his

 

290

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longsword Nate says he was willing to

 

291

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push their Alistar but only so far and

 

292

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he feels like he's already pushed

 

293

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further than you know willing Sorrell

 

294

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sir then decides that he's going to pit

 

295

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Jon against the boys cuz they need to go

 

296

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get sir piggy and they need to get

 

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through Johnny yeah they'll make an

 

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exercise of it

 

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so he tells Rast and Albert to join him

 

300

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alder yeah and he says yeah John make

 

301

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Lord piggy squeal just get past the

 

302

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bastard and John's eye sees these used

 

303

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to two versus one he's used to two of

 

304

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the guys coming at him at a time cuz

 

305

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thorn does that to him all the fucking

 

306

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time which you know it's kind of

 

307

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necessary for John technically none of

 

308

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them really one-on-one 3v1

 

309

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John is expecting to go to sleep tonight

 

310

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bloody and bruised and beat yeah so you

 

311

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tell Sam to stand behind him and the

 

312

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odds begin to turn a little little pip

 

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stands up behind John to drawn his sword

 

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before John can even say a word I kicked

 

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the table again

 

316

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and now like every can you not well that

 

317

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was to table kicks into and John Squad

 

318

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whose door make a third there's the

 

319

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table kick and Greg step so what kind of

 

320

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power is this you wield to me to the

 

321

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third and the yard goes deathly quiet at

 

322

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this and Sir Alastair I think he's

 

323

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actually sort of amuse he they ask them

 

324

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what are you waiting for

 

325

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so I love this because this is one of

 

326

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our first really good little fight

 

327

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damage scenes and it's kind of badass

 

328

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so thorn asked that to Rast but it's

 

329

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John who moves first and halter barely

 

330

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gets his sword up in time before John is

 

331

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just driving him back drive and John has

 

332

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time to think no your foe is what Sir

 

333

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Roderick had always taught him and he

 

334

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knew that halter was strong but short on

 

335

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patience and you could frustrate him and

 

336

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get him to leave himself over yeah and

 

337

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so John goes right in Knox hauled it

 

338

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right on his ass and goes to move and so

 

339

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this is cool cuz he immediately has the

 

340

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thought process of you know gren is and

 

341

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he's kind of holding his own he's good

 

342

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all pip needs more help yeah and so he

 

343

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goes and helps pip first yeah against

 

344

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rats yeah so he slams rest in the helm

 

345

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yeah the sword and pip is unable to get

 

346

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him down on the ground and so facing two

 

347

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swords Albee packs away yielding and sir

 

348

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Alistair is not pleased with because

 

349

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especially how fast they yeah we show

 

350

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doom yeah and so he looks around with

 

351

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disgust and he calls an end of the

 

352

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session and saying there's only so much

 

353

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he can stomach in a day so Halldor rips

 

354

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off his helmet tells John I thought I

 

355

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finally had you and so I really like

 

356

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that once thorn stalks away and like the

 

357

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he he got this like howl there's not a

 

358

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bad dude bright thorn he holder was more

 

359

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excited that like he had put pit up

 

360

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again like and even John's like for a

 

361

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second there you did it yeah like it was

 

362

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he tries to take off his helmet but the

 

363

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pain in his shoulder from a wound he had

 

364

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taken from Hall there made it actually

 

365

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hard to get it off so he crits it he

 

366

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just kind of gives off and then he hears

 

367

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let me in these thick fingered hands

 

368

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John's helmet and it says that blood met

 

369

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at the fat boy's head where Halldor it's

 

370

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what his helm and he introduces himself

 

371

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my name is Samwell Tarly and I am what I

 

372

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was of horn him

 

373

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and he says I'm John snow and then

 

374

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Samson if you want you can call me Sam

 

375

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and John does the introductions these

 

376

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two are granite pipe are pip are papaw

 

377

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Papa people are and Sam says my thanks

 

378

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to all of you and so gran sort of the

 

379

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simple one of the group asks why didn't

 

380

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you get up and fight and this is when

 

381

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Sam and my admits he looks to the ground

 

382

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and he says I fear I'm a coward um a

 

383

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bitch I like to run away from stuff and

 

384

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they're all stunned by this what sort of

 

385

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man admits that he's a coward in this

 

386

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world that's just yeah it's crazy to be

 

387

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yourself probably out to be like yeah no

 

388

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you know the worst thing you could

 

389

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possibly be is you know yellow and

 

390

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that's me I'm cravin yeah so it says Sam

 

391

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must have read their thoughts because he

 

392

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apologizes and he says that I don't mean

 

393

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to be like I am and he starts heading

 

394

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toward the armory but John calls to him

 

395

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tomorrow you'll do better and his eye as

 

396

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well he says no I won't pick tchard was

 

397

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like in Alan Rickman's voice as the

 

398

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robots great well and that's he just

 

399

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walks away i grin again the simple one

 

400

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is worried about being seen as a coward

 

401

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because they associated with him by

 

402

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association Pepa tells him he's too

 

403

00:17:05,350 --> 00:17:09,280

stupid and they're arguing and Jon heads

 

404

00:17:07,660 --> 00:17:11,740

off to the armor he's used to their

 

405

00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,240

bickering he hangs up a sword a nice

 

406

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tripping off his armor and he thinks

 

407

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about how life at Castle black follows a

 

408

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routine mornings are for swordplay

 

409

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afternoons are for the work new recruits

 

410

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usually are set to a ton of different

 

411

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tasks throughout the the castle to see

 

412

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where their skills so it's kinda how it

 

413

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was for me in high school back

 

414

00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,290

yeah you get the vocations you get the

 

415

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different you know shop class and

 

416

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carpentry class and fucking all those

 

417

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different things and then you go to each

 

418

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one for so many days or weeks and then

 

419

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you pick one at the end or yeah you know

 

420

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in this case you're given assign to one

 

421

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and so it says that John saw favorite

 

422

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thing favorite job to do was hunting

 

423

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game for the Lord Commander supper with

 

424

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ghost but for every day he spent hunting

 

425

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with goes he spent 10 in the armory

 

426

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helping Donald oi or running mad

 

427

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suja's or standing at guard or helping a

 

428

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man with the birds or Bowen Marsh with

 

429

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counts and inventories so he's getting

 

430

00:18:02,950 --> 00:18:07,810

this wide span not really of training

 

431

00:18:06,130 --> 00:18:09,970

but more of just like are you good at

 

432

00:18:07,810 --> 00:18:12,070

this tree it's basically the what is it

 

433

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the M casts or whatever testing that

 

434

00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:16,210

they used to do to that saw

 

435

00:18:13,710 --> 00:18:16,720

Massachusetts like all right no what is

 

436

00:18:16,210 --> 00:18:22,780

it

 

437

00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:24,970

the grand pacer fitness just no because

 

438

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it would be the SATs and the the fucking

 

439

00:18:24,970 --> 00:18:30,040

what were those other ones that you

 

440

00:18:26,980 --> 00:18:32,440

could do yeah now the UH it might be

 

441

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like a named after the military kind of

 

442

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testing or some shit but it's I don't

 

443

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fucking know dude I don't know man it's

 

444

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it's test and I feel like vocational

 

445

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classes might have aged us I don't know

 

446

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if some of our younger listeners would

 

447

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even know what a vocational class is do

 

448

00:18:44,860 --> 00:18:48,730

they have those in schools these days

 

449

00:18:46,380 --> 00:18:51,700

we're gonna change the fucking topic

 

450

00:18:48,730 --> 00:18:54,070

right we're done so this afternoon

 

451

00:18:51,700 --> 00:18:56,050

John's job was to scatter

 

452

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gravel because that's so much more

 

453

00:18:56,050 --> 00:19:03,010

exciting dropping rocks on contemplate

 

454

00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:04,960

my aging cell true story I suppose so

 

455

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John yeah has to scatter gravel over the

 

456

00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,480

tops of footpaths on the wall yeah

 

457

00:19:06,730 --> 00:19:09,370

you're just kind of thinking about

 

458

00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,290

Tyrion and salmon it's lonely boring

 

459

00:19:09,370 --> 00:19:12,550

work but John doesn't really mind and

 

460

00:19:11,290 --> 00:19:13,900

yeah he finds himself sort of

 

461

00:19:12,550 --> 00:19:16,510

daydreaming and yeah he's thinking of

 

462

00:19:13,900 --> 00:19:18,730

Samwell Tarly and oddly Tyrion Lannister

 

463

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and he wonders what Tyrion would make a

 

464

00:19:18,730 --> 00:19:23,650

Sam and then he thinks of Tyrians quote

 

465

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most men would rather deny a hard truth

 

466

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than face it and that's when John

 

467

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decides that you know it takes a it

 

468

00:19:29,410 --> 00:19:35,050

takes a queer kind of courage to or

 

469

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bravery to be admitting to the fact that

 

470

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you're a coward yeah the world is full

 

471

00:19:36,610 --> 00:19:40,300

of Cravens who pretend to be heroes and

 

472

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it takes a queer sort of courage to

 

473

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admit cowardice as Samwell Tarly had

 

474

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this and that's it mean I really like

 

475

00:19:45,970 --> 00:19:49,480

that's a little bit of John's maturity

 

476

00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,920

and I think tyrion helped sort of shine

 

477

00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,620

the light on that a lot when he was at

 

478

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the wall of like looking at a man for

 

479

00:19:53,620 --> 00:19:58,300

more of his motives in his reasoning why

 

480

00:19:55,510 --> 00:20:01,510

would Sam admit this because he is and

 

481

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John's right there is sort of a bravery

 

482

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and in knowing that knowing that he's

 

483

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never gonna lead arranging North in the

 

484

00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,970

wall he likes and we learn it a little

 

485

00:20:08,110 --> 00:20:12,370

bit more but Sam like song-and-dance

 

486

00:20:09,970 --> 00:20:15,970

yeah and that's food and I was actually

 

487

00:20:12,370 --> 00:20:18,549

having an argument online recently there

 

488

00:20:15,970 --> 00:20:20,409

was somebody was talking about those

 

489

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always get somewhere yeah I know

 

490

00:20:20,409 --> 00:20:25,990

randyll Tarly and why it's hey he's a

 

491

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product of his environment and that's

 

492

00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:31,480

why he hates Sam for not being masculine

 

493

00:20:28,179 --> 00:20:33,850

and I started mentioning like you know

 

494

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fuck randyll Tarly because like who just

 

495

00:20:33,850 --> 00:20:37,120

because Sam likes to read and sing and

 

496

00:20:36,759 --> 00:20:39,639

stuff

 

497

00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:44,259

fucking Rhaegar was one of the most like

 

498

00:20:39,639 --> 00:20:47,889

looked up to potential he's saying he

 

499

00:20:44,259 --> 00:20:48,340

read he liked poets me Ned Stark an art

 

500

00:20:47,889 --> 00:20:50,620

yeah

 

501

00:20:48,340 --> 00:20:55,120

right doesn't you know shame her into

 

502

00:20:50,620 --> 00:20:56,279

being a water dancing sword yeah like

 

503

00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:59,259

[Music]

 

504

00:20:56,279 --> 00:21:02,470

like Charlie's a dick and that's not to

 

505

00:20:59,259 --> 00:21:05,620

say that uh that Ned's fucking a perfect

 

506

00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:07,480

parent vines but there is acceptance of

 

507

00:21:05,620 --> 00:21:07,870

what your children choose to do in this

 

508

00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,029

way

 

509

00:21:07,870 --> 00:21:11,529

Sam is more than capable he would we

 

510

00:21:10,029 --> 00:21:14,169

would have been a way better fucking

 

511

00:21:11,529 --> 00:21:16,600

heir to horn Hill than randyll Tarly

 

512

00:21:14,169 --> 00:21:19,000

ever was exactly Sam would have that

 

513

00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,399

place fucking it would be booming I bet

 

514

00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,590

he'd have the combo in the world like

 

515

00:21:21,399 --> 00:21:25,929

it's the randyll Tarly that are the

 

516

00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:28,960

issue they're the wrong continue this

 

517

00:21:25,929 --> 00:21:31,179

cycle of you know WHMIS honesty yeah

 

518

00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:34,240

women I shouldn't be in power you know

 

519

00:21:31,179 --> 00:21:36,820

and men need to be the strong burly

 

520

00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:39,309

warriors oh yeah so it's nice that Jon

 

521

00:21:36,820 --> 00:21:41,320

recognizes so early that like at least

 

522

00:21:39,309 --> 00:21:43,659

Sam knows what he's good and he's

 

523

00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,029

accepted what he's bad so it's late

 

524

00:21:43,659 --> 00:21:48,190

afternoon by the time he's done

 

525

00:21:45,029 --> 00:21:49,509

scattering his gravel and he's watching

 

526

00:21:48,190 --> 00:21:51,700

the sunset from the top of the wall

 

527

00:21:49,509 --> 00:21:53,860

which I imagine it's just a fucking

 

528

00:21:51,700 --> 00:21:55,629

sight to see man and then he descends

 

529

00:21:53,860 --> 00:21:57,070

down heading to dinner and it says that

 

530

00:21:55,629 --> 00:21:59,470

the evening meal is almost finished by

 

531

00:21:57,070 --> 00:22:01,539

the time Ghost and John arrive to the

 

532

00:21:59,470 --> 00:22:03,610

eating hall yeah he gives a breakdown on

 

533

00:22:01,539 --> 00:22:05,049

what's going on his friends chilling on

 

534

00:22:03,610 --> 00:22:07,480

a bench and pip is telling another story

 

535

00:22:05,049 --> 00:22:09,429

that yet that night and pip usually has

 

536

00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,019

great stories that everyone laughs at

 

537

00:22:09,429 --> 00:22:12,159

which again he traveled with mummers so

 

538

00:22:11,019 --> 00:22:12,970

it makes sense that he's pretty good

 

539

00:22:12,159 --> 00:22:14,769

storytelling

 

540

00:22:12,970 --> 00:22:16,269

John doesn't go and join them and it's

 

541

00:22:14,769 --> 00:22:18,580

in goes to the other end of the bench

 

542

00:22:16,269 --> 00:22:20,740

where Sam was sitting alone and Sam's

 

543

00:22:18,580 --> 00:22:22,440

eyes widen as ghosts and him walk up and

 

544

00:22:20,740 --> 00:22:25,110

he asks if it's a wolf and John

 

545

00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:28,730

says bitch it's a dialogue get astray

 

546

00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:31,500

motherfucker and his name is ghost and

 

547

00:22:28,730 --> 00:22:34,409

he basically just straight up ass Sam

 

548

00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:37,409

why are you so frightened and Sam shakes

 

549

00:22:34,409 --> 00:22:40,080

his head to - scared you know talking

 

550

00:22:37,409 --> 00:22:42,360

and I think John guesses it right here

 

551

00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,679

that it's in this room you know there's

 

552

00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:46,049

a lot of people that could hear and

 

553

00:22:43,679 --> 00:22:47,519

laugh and yeah so John success they go

 

554

00:22:46,049 --> 00:22:49,200

outside and Sam gets a little suspicious

 

555

00:22:47,519 --> 00:22:52,080

and says why and John says so we can

 

556

00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,970

talk and you know - what there's a wall

 

557

00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,679

out there have you seen it and Sam says

 

558

00:22:53,970 --> 00:22:57,870

I'm fat I'm not blind

 

559

00:22:55,679 --> 00:23:00,299

but so he throws his cloak on and they

 

560

00:22:57,870 --> 00:23:03,360

head outside and they go out and they

 

561

00:23:00,299 --> 00:23:06,149

they talk about the cold and Sam admits

 

562

00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:08,460

that he's never seen snow so the real

 

563

00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:10,049

cool thing is that John had these same

 

564

00:23:08,460 --> 00:23:12,899

feelings because he really mentions how

 

565

00:23:10,049 --> 00:23:15,360

he wasn't expecting it to be this cold

 

566

00:23:12,899 --> 00:23:17,970

yeah and neither did John and John's

 

567

00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:19,529

used to the cold so like for poor Sam

 

568

00:23:17,970 --> 00:23:22,230

Tarly it's like going from fucking

 

569

00:23:19,529 --> 00:23:24,960

Florida to the very top of fucking

 

570

00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:27,210

Canada like you've got this nice warm

 

571

00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:30,330

weather all the time the coldest weather

 

572

00:23:27,210 --> 00:23:32,220

you get is still fairly decent and all

 

573

00:23:30,330 --> 00:23:34,320

of a sudden there's fucking snow he dad

 

574

00:23:32,220 --> 00:23:36,480

that's a thing that's real shit I

 

575

00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,379

thought that was in old man stories Horn

 

576

00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,860

Hills old man

 

577

00:23:37,379 --> 00:23:42,330

she tells stories about Winterfell

 

578

00:23:39,860 --> 00:23:44,220

currently that's how behind the times

 

579

00:23:42,330 --> 00:23:52,860

they are with that shit horn Hill is an

 

580

00:23:44,220 --> 00:23:55,799

anagram for old man educated post anyway

 

581

00:23:52,860 --> 00:23:57,360

Sam yeah he sort of rehashes this and

 

582

00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:59,730

how he had never seen snow until about a

 

583

00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:01,080

month ago so it's all terrifying to him

 

584

00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:02,580

and then he says that he's worried about

 

585

00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,740

going to the top of the wall he doesn't

 

586

00:24:02,580 --> 00:24:06,299

much like high places and this ends up

 

587

00:24:04,740 --> 00:24:08,460

being the last straw for John he asked

 

588

00:24:06,299 --> 00:24:10,110

who are you afraid of everything why

 

589

00:24:08,460 --> 00:24:13,740

would a coward want to join the Nights

 

590

00:24:10,110 --> 00:24:15,629

Watch and Sam sits down and he begins

 

591

00:24:13,740 --> 00:24:18,509

sobbing and John is kind of just

 

592

00:24:15,629 --> 00:24:21,659

awkwardly staring at him but it says it

 

593

00:24:18,509 --> 00:24:23,460

was ghost you know what to do I fucking

 

594

00:24:21,659 --> 00:24:25,409

love this especially because we you know

 

595

00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:29,820

is again this is a full spoiler we read

 

596

00:24:25,409 --> 00:24:31,409

ghost is gonna be with Sam well for a

 

597

00:24:29,820 --> 00:24:34,649

while now yeah and so they're gonna

 

598

00:24:31,409 --> 00:24:35,530

build a friendship - and so like I love

 

599

00:24:34,649 --> 00:24:37,720

that fucking

 

600

00:24:35,530 --> 00:24:39,880

runs up and just starts licking the

 

601

00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:44,260

tears off huh and Sam cries out at first

 

602

00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:45,880

and he freaks out but it says in a

 

603

00:24:44,260 --> 00:24:48,340

heartbeat his sobs turned to laughter

 

604

00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:51,040

and then Jon Snow begins laughing with

 

605

00:24:48,340 --> 00:24:52,750

him and John starts telling them about

 

606

00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,240

how they found the wolves and then soon

 

607

00:24:52,750 --> 00:24:57,460

enough he's talking of Winterfell and he

 

608

00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,470

says that sometimes I dream about it in

 

609

00:24:57,460 --> 00:25:03,820

the in these dreams he's walking down a

 

610

00:24:59,470 --> 00:25:05,650

long empty hall and he's calling he and

 

611

00:25:03,820 --> 00:25:07,930

something he's calling for everybody but

 

612

00:25:05,650 --> 00:25:09,280

no one ever answers him and it says he

 

613

00:25:07,930 --> 00:25:11,350

doesn't know who he's looking for

 

614

00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:14,620

most nights it's his father some nights

 

615

00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:16,480

it's Rob or REO or even benjin and the

 

616

00:25:14,620 --> 00:25:18,430

thought of benjin makes him sad and he

 

617

00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:22,090

thinks about how know we're still sent

 

618

00:25:18,430 --> 00:25:23,650

out looking for him and sam asks if you

 

619

00:25:22,090 --> 00:25:26,830

ever do you ever find anyone in your

 

620

00:25:23,650 --> 00:25:28,480

dreams did you have a point so it's just

 

621

00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:29,680

about that I don't know if the this is

 

622

00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,230

further in the quote yet so I was

 

623

00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:35,910

letting you finish where you were at he

 

624

00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:39,070

mentions the stables and the and the

 

625

00:25:35,910 --> 00:25:41,620

stables being full oh yeah yeah yeah

 

626

00:25:39,070 --> 00:25:43,270

yeah I got one more thing there yeah sam

 

627

00:25:41,620 --> 00:25:45,010

says yeah do you ever find a new one in

 

628

00:25:43,270 --> 00:25:46,860

your dreams and John shakes his head and

 

629

00:25:45,010 --> 00:25:50,560

says that the castle is always empty and

 

630

00:25:46,860 --> 00:25:53,170

he doesn't know why he's opening up to

 

631

00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:56,110

Sam about this but god damn it feels

 

632

00:25:53,170 --> 00:25:57,640

good to tell somebody about this even

 

633

00:25:56,110 --> 00:25:59,950

though there really isn't anything and

 

634

00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,680

yeah he mentions that the Ravens are

 

635

00:25:59,950 --> 00:26:05,260

gone and then that he you know the birds

 

636

00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:09,610

are gone the who gets to the stables and

 

637

00:26:05,260 --> 00:26:11,740

it's just full of bones and for some

 

638

00:26:09,610 --> 00:26:13,240

reason when that line came at me that

 

639

00:26:11,740 --> 00:26:16,780

the first thing that jumped into my mind

 

640

00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:20,470

and granted it is most likely 100%

 

641

00:26:16,780 --> 00:26:23,740

completely unrelated but it was there

 

642

00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:25,480

Mayer six skins yeah and rattle rattle

 

643

00:26:23,740 --> 00:26:28,240

sure yeah there cuz he's talking about

 

644

00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:30,790

the birds and the stables and piles of

 

645

00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,560

bones in this it just seemed kind of

 

646

00:26:30,790 --> 00:26:33,970

like this almost like it could

 

647

00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,190

potentially be this foreshadowing for

 

648

00:26:33,970 --> 00:26:38,920

some of the other people he might be

 

649

00:26:36,190 --> 00:26:41,290

meeting yeah yeah but I don't have any

 

650

00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,360

evidence oh yeah I had I just happened

 

651

00:26:41,290 --> 00:26:45,280

to pop into my head right then so I just

 

652

00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:47,380

wrote it down and John oh and he says

 

653

00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,340

that that that always scares him when he

 

654

00:26:47,380 --> 00:26:50,770

sees the stable

 

655

00:26:48,340 --> 00:26:53,350

bones and then he finds himself at the

 

656

00:26:50,770 --> 00:26:55,030

the entranceway to the crypts and he

 

657

00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:57,700

says somehow I know I have to go down

 

658

00:26:55,030 --> 00:27:01,330

there but I don't want to I'm afraid of

 

659

00:26:57,700 --> 00:27:03,310

what's waiting for me and so he screams

 

660

00:27:01,330 --> 00:27:06,010

that he's not a stark and that this

 

661

00:27:03,310 --> 00:27:08,800

isn't his place but you know said he has

 

662

00:27:06,010 --> 00:27:11,590

to go anyway and he does he starts down

 

663

00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:14,380

and he feel he's feeling the walls until

 

664

00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:16,300

it gets darker and darker until he just

 

665

00:27:14,380 --> 00:27:18,100

wants to scream and that's when he

 

666

00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:20,200

always wakes up and that's pretty

 

667

00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:23,140

terrifying fucking dream yeah man that's

 

668

00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:27,160

that's creepy as shit cuz I mean it says

 

669

00:27:23,140 --> 00:27:30,130

again that he's not scared about his his

 

670

00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:33,040

death it's more the kings of winter down

 

671

00:27:30,130 --> 00:27:34,950

not you know and so like he doesn't

 

672

00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,960

belong um

 

673

00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:40,330

fuck man that poor kid really after

 

674

00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:44,590

being like ostracized by Catelyn Stark

 

675

00:27:40,330 --> 00:27:46,840

getting like it's it's just fucked yeah

 

676

00:27:44,590 --> 00:27:49,420

so John asks Sam do you dream of horn

 

677

00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,520

Hill and Sam says no I hated it there

 

678

00:27:49,420 --> 00:27:53,560

and this is when we get the description

 

679

00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,830

that the tarly's were an old house sworn

 

680

00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,510

to the Tyrells of Highgarden Samwell was

 

681

00:27:56,830 --> 00:28:02,380

the oldest son of randyll Tarly

 

682

00:27:58,510 --> 00:28:04,930

and whatever pride Randall had felt at

 

683

00:28:02,380 --> 00:28:07,840

Sam's birth vanished as soon as he grew

 

684

00:28:04,930 --> 00:28:10,630

up plump and soft and awkward he liked

 

685

00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:13,420

music and kittens and books and dance

 

686

00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:16,840

and he fainted at the sight of blood and

 

687

00:28:13,420 --> 00:28:19,930

wept at the sight of the place yeah a

 

688

00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:22,420

dozen master-at-arms tried to turn Sam

 

689

00:28:19,930 --> 00:28:25,990

into a knight and when that didn't work

 

690

00:28:22,420 --> 00:28:28,090

it turned to abuse and starvation amen

 

691

00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:29,980

Randall's fucking a savage cunt and

 

692

00:28:28,090 --> 00:28:32,440

through it all Sam only grew fatter and

 

693

00:28:29,980 --> 00:28:36,160

more frightened one time two warlocks

 

694

00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:38,680

from Qarth came white skin and blue lips

 

695

00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:41,500

they slaughtered a bowl and made him

 

696

00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:44,110

bathe in the hot blood and it didn't

 

697

00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:46,330

make him brave like they promised he got

 

698

00:28:44,110 --> 00:28:48,520

sick and puked and his father had them

 

699

00:28:46,330 --> 00:28:52,450

scored yes so it's very cool that we get

 

700

00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:54,100

to see the warlocks and the what are

 

701

00:28:52,450 --> 00:28:57,430

these at the nightshade they drink yeah

 

702

00:28:54,100 --> 00:29:00,250

so early on and in a John chat so I just

 

703

00:28:57,430 --> 00:29:02,200

thought well speaking of Danny I just

 

704

00:29:00,250 --> 00:29:03,999

thought of course it didn't

 

705

00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:08,679

like the dragons weren't born yet

 

706

00:29:03,999 --> 00:29:10,690

there's no magic sense actually I don't

 

707

00:29:08,679 --> 00:29:13,139

know why but as soon as like what the

 

708

00:29:10,690 --> 00:29:16,090

white wires or the others are a

 

709

00:29:13,139 --> 00:29:20,230

different set of yeah let's be honest

 

710

00:29:16,090 --> 00:29:22,809

here so he says that finally after three

 

711

00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:24,909

girls in three years lady Tarly gave

 

712

00:29:22,809 --> 00:29:27,820

birth to another son and Sam was fucking

 

713

00:29:24,909 --> 00:29:30,190

forgotten yeah but when it was peaceful

 

714

00:29:27,820 --> 00:29:32,710

and Sam enjoyed it until his 15th year

 

715

00:29:30,190 --> 00:29:34,600

right name day but where he awakened to

 

716

00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:36,210

his horse was saddled and ready and he

 

717

00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:42,190

was escorted to his father who was

 

718

00:29:36,210 --> 00:29:43,929

skinning a deer yo so I never made the

 

719

00:29:42,190 --> 00:29:46,119

connection - this is how they got the

 

720

00:29:43,929 --> 00:29:50,249

introduction in the television show for

 

721

00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:52,239

ty winds a little part with Jamie and

 

722

00:29:50,249 --> 00:29:54,340

God that's cool though that it's

 

723

00:29:52,239 --> 00:29:57,509

actually randyll Tarly yeah Sam and

 

724

00:29:54,340 --> 00:29:59,710

that's because that you know in the show

 

725

00:29:57,509 --> 00:30:01,480

Tywin is skinning the deer when Jaime

 

726

00:29:59,710 --> 00:30:03,489

Jaime first oh yeah the first time we

 

727

00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,999

meet Tywin I think yes and it's with

 

728

00:30:03,489 --> 00:30:07,600

Jaime

 

729

00:30:03,999 --> 00:30:09,580

but with Samwell he's he's disgusted by

 

730

00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,470

the death and yeah there's some stuff of

 

731

00:30:09,580 --> 00:30:14,169

hunting and the skinning of the day like

 

732

00:30:11,470 --> 00:30:16,899

that's unbelievably unsettling for him

 

733

00:30:14,169 --> 00:30:18,850

and so it just paints this way darker

 

734

00:30:16,899 --> 00:30:20,919

picture of randyll Tarly then and

 

735

00:30:18,850 --> 00:30:23,649

granted that was very powerful scene in

 

736

00:30:20,919 --> 00:30:26,739

the show with Tywin doing the skins yeah

 

737

00:30:23,649 --> 00:30:28,600

stuff but like fucking Martin did it so

 

738

00:30:26,739 --> 00:30:30,820

much better with randyll Tarly yes it's

 

739

00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:34,179

like it's just a much more savage way

 

740

00:30:30,820 --> 00:30:36,879

because Sam's that soft plumped gentle

 

741

00:30:34,179 --> 00:30:39,159

kid being escorted in the middle of the

 

742

00:30:36,879 --> 00:30:41,710

fucking morning out to the woods where

 

743

00:30:39,159 --> 00:30:44,679

this man is skinning an animal in front

 

744

00:30:41,710 --> 00:30:47,070

of him threatening him saying you can

 

745

00:30:44,679 --> 00:30:50,049

you can either join the Nights Watch or

 

746

00:30:47,070 --> 00:30:52,090

you can get fucking killed cuz you're

 

747

00:30:50,049 --> 00:30:54,669

going on a hunt with us and I will kill

 

748

00:30:52,090 --> 00:30:56,710

you yeah I will myself your father

 

749

00:30:54,669 --> 00:30:58,239

fucking killing I'll tell your mother

 

750

00:30:56,710 --> 00:31:00,669

you were thrown from your saddle to die

 

751

00:30:58,239 --> 00:31:02,710

she is a kind woman and I have no wish

 

752

00:31:00,669 --> 00:31:04,539

to cause her pain but nothing would

 

753

00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:07,419

please me more than to hunt you down

 

754

00:31:04,539 --> 00:31:10,029

like the pig that you are the choice is

 

755

00:31:07,419 --> 00:31:11,349

yours the Nights Watch or he holds up

 

756

00:31:10,029 --> 00:31:12,610

the the dear heart

 

757

00:31:11,349 --> 00:31:15,399

or this

 

758

00:31:12,610 --> 00:31:18,640

and he sang that to his son yeah man and

 

759

00:31:15,399 --> 00:31:20,590

John notes that oddly Sam doesn't cry at

 

760

00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,440

all during the telling of this story I

 

761

00:31:20,590 --> 00:31:24,909

think that's a sign of how much Sam has

 

762

00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,740

hardened tortoise I think that's some

 

763

00:31:24,909 --> 00:31:30,130

steely resolve that's gonna really point

 

764

00:31:26,740 --> 00:31:31,480

to the arc that he's expected to to be

 

765

00:31:30,130 --> 00:31:33,519

going through for throughout the series

 

766

00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,740

that he's got this you know I dealt with

 

767

00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:38,019

this savagery from my father for years

 

768

00:31:35,740 --> 00:31:38,980

and years and years it's the one thing

 

769

00:31:38,019 --> 00:31:40,029

that doesn't bother me

 

770

00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:41,830

yeah I mean everyone's got their

 

771

00:31:40,029 --> 00:31:43,840

shipment like Sam is hardened in a

 

772

00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:45,700

different way due to the beauty at his

 

773

00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,649

father's hands so John suggests heading

 

774

00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:50,380

in for some hot cider and some singing

 

775

00:31:47,649 --> 00:31:52,090

and Sam's face is troubled again and he

 

776

00:31:50,380 --> 00:31:54,070

asks he's going to make me fight again

 

777

00:31:52,090 --> 00:31:56,409

tomorrow isn't he and John says yeah he

 

778

00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:56,649

is and so Sam says now I better get some

 

779

00:31:56,409 --> 00:31:59,169

sleep

 

780

00:31:56,649 --> 00:32:01,090

then and he heads off yeah so John

 

781

00:31:59,169 --> 00:32:04,210

decision yeah John enters the common

 

782

00:32:01,090 --> 00:32:06,460

room alone but ghost is before Coast and

 

783

00:32:04,210 --> 00:32:08,830

the brothers in there are discussing Sam

 

784

00:32:06,460 --> 00:32:10,990

making fun of them but John ends up

 

785

00:32:08,830 --> 00:32:12,340

snapping at them telling them that this

 

786

00:32:10,990 --> 00:32:13,929

is how it's gonna be from now on

 

787

00:32:12,340 --> 00:32:16,210

ain't no one gonna be fuckin with Sam

 

788

00:32:13,929 --> 00:32:17,769

and it says that it goes it's sort of

 

789

00:32:16,210 --> 00:32:20,350

like a quick montage yeah it's kind of

 

790

00:32:17,769 --> 00:32:22,090

persuaded some controlled others shamed

 

791

00:32:20,350 --> 00:32:23,769

others and made threats when threats

 

792

00:32:22,090 --> 00:32:25,630

were required yeah I just feel like it's

 

793

00:32:23,769 --> 00:32:27,190

got that little 80's music montage of

 

794

00:32:25,630 --> 00:32:28,779

him like grouping around the group of

 

795

00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:30,610

them and like talking to some and then

 

796

00:32:28,779 --> 00:32:33,519

like pointing his finger all angrily at

 

797

00:32:30,610 --> 00:32:35,669

other ones but rest refuses oh yeah by

 

798

00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:39,639

the end all agreed except her ass so

 

799

00:32:35,669 --> 00:32:43,299

when the castle is slept this is like

 

800

00:32:39,639 --> 00:32:49,630

some military boys camp like or may look

 

801

00:32:43,299 --> 00:32:51,880

like the boy parties pip and John visit

 

802

00:32:49,630 --> 00:32:54,070

Rath holding him down as ghosts

 

803

00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,679

stands on his chest and nips lightly at

 

804

00:32:54,070 --> 00:33:00,090

his throat enough to draw blood and John

 

805

00:32:56,679 --> 00:33:03,460

says we know what do you sleep yo like

 

806

00:33:00,090 --> 00:33:05,529

and then we get the jump and it says

 

807

00:33:03,460 --> 00:33:07,570

from that day forward no one would hurt

 

808

00:33:05,529 --> 00:33:09,220

same well Tarly they would SWAT his

 

809

00:33:07,570 --> 00:33:11,260

attacks away or give him light-hearted

 

810

00:33:09,220 --> 00:33:13,630

taps on the shoulder when instructed to

 

811

00:33:11,260 --> 00:33:15,639

attack in South sir Alistair would rage

 

812

00:33:13,630 --> 00:33:17,350

it well they would sit there and defend

 

813

00:33:15,639 --> 00:33:19,179

his blows so that he was training as

 

814

00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:21,370

well and swinging yeah and you know if

 

815

00:33:19,179 --> 00:33:23,200

he forced them to hit they would go in

 

816

00:33:21,370 --> 00:33:25,320

and tap him and if they if he wanted

 

817

00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,059

them to hit harder they just wouldn't

 

818

00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,740

fuck you dude and then a few nights

 

819

00:33:27,059 --> 00:33:30,990

later he actually joined them at dinner

 

820

00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:32,519

taking a place beside Halldor I really

 

821

00:33:30,990 --> 00:33:36,600

like this progression at I'm here

 

822

00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:38,639

showing the the the the growth and just

 

823

00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,649

the the bond that develops between these

 

824

00:33:38,639 --> 00:33:42,659

guys yeah at first you know he wouldn't

 

825

00:33:40,649 --> 00:33:44,610

really talk but in time he was laughing

 

826

00:33:42,659 --> 00:33:46,950

with and joking and jesting with pip

 

827

00:33:44,610 --> 00:33:48,690

with the best of them and it says that

 

828

00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:50,220

Sam was no fool and eventually he

 

829

00:33:48,690 --> 00:33:52,799

approaches John and says I don't know

 

830

00:33:50,220 --> 00:33:55,559

what you did but I know you did it

 

831

00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:57,779

and Sam says I've never had a friend

 

832

00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:59,429

before and John says we're not friends

 

833

00:33:57,779 --> 00:34:01,649

we're brothers of the Nights love

 

834

00:33:59,429 --> 00:34:05,309

brother and this is one of those you

 

835

00:34:01,649 --> 00:34:07,889

know those cliche fucking just it's like

 

836

00:34:05,309 --> 00:34:10,409

a chick flick fucking yeah mind we're

 

837

00:34:07,889 --> 00:34:16,020

not friends and like Sam is all taken

 

838

00:34:10,409 --> 00:34:18,540

aback so John thinks that he still loves

 

839

00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:19,800

Rob and bran and Rickon but he isn't one

 

840

00:34:18,540 --> 00:34:21,780

of them and he was never one of them

 

841

00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,599

thanks to Catelyn Stark thanks to his

 

842

00:34:21,780 --> 00:34:26,609

name but Castle black is his life now

 

843

00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:29,040

and his brothers were Sam and pip and

 

844

00:34:26,609 --> 00:34:32,159

Grenn and the other cast outs in black

 

845

00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:35,250

and yeah once again he brings up Uncle

 

846

00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:37,079

Ben and he mentions you know you might

 

847

00:34:35,250 --> 00:34:40,500

be off enjoying your visit with Peter

 

848

00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:43,020

Parker but I am here realizing that your

 

849

00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:46,980

advice and your words to me were true

 

850

00:34:43,020 --> 00:34:50,220

and I'll never get the chance to my

 

851

00:34:46,980 --> 00:34:51,810

uncle spoke truly he's fed the ghost and

 

852

00:34:50,220 --> 00:34:54,869

then he just wonders if he's ever gonna

 

853

00:34:51,810 --> 00:34:58,380

see his uncle Benjen again that's what I

 

854

00:34:54,869 --> 00:35:00,060

said you know he's not Uncle Ben yo you

 

855

00:34:58,380 --> 00:35:02,010

will see Uncle Ben in that book at some

 

856

00:35:00,060 --> 00:35:04,109

point and that be it that was the end of

 

857

00:35:02,010 --> 00:35:04,740

John four awesome chapters yeah I really

 

858

00:35:04,109 --> 00:35:07,530

enjoyed that

 

859

00:35:04,740 --> 00:35:09,690

Sam's introduction is good no you really

 

860

00:35:07,530 --> 00:35:13,710

see how soft and vulnerable he is but he

 

861

00:35:09,690 --> 00:35:16,440

does have a sort of courage and sort of

 

862

00:35:13,710 --> 00:35:19,020

courage got no duckie yeah this time I

 

863

00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,060

do actually don't look at me like that

 

864

00:35:19,020 --> 00:35:26,490

like you're surprised I always come

 

865

00:35:21,060 --> 00:35:29,270

prepared to this yeah yeah yeah I'm good

 

866

00:35:26,490 --> 00:35:32,790

I'm good I was giving mine to pip

 

867

00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:35,010

because he's the you know it's expected

 

868

00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:36,869

of John he's the bastard Lord bastard

 

869

00:35:35,010 --> 00:35:38,609

lord snow who always steps up and

 

870

00:35:36,869 --> 00:35:39,160

protects you know the he speaks the

 

871

00:35:38,609 --> 00:35:42,400

peasants

 

872

00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:44,470

cour pips the first one to step up and

 

873

00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,970

back up his friend regard like you know

 

874

00:35:44,470 --> 00:35:48,460

he wants to talk to shit about fucking

 

875

00:35:45,970 --> 00:35:51,609

Sam he's the biggest shit talker at the

 

876

00:35:48,460 --> 00:35:53,559

wall besides thorn himself and so like

 

877

00:35:51,609 --> 00:35:55,869

he's he's it's a field day for him with

 

878

00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:58,000

Sam but he's like no like my friends

 

879

00:35:55,869 --> 00:35:59,799

defending him that kid is getting his

 

880

00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,250

ass beat for no reason I'm gonna fight

 

881

00:35:59,799 --> 00:36:02,529

too

 

882

00:36:00,250 --> 00:36:05,230

Grenn's too dumb to step forward himself

 

883

00:36:02,529 --> 00:36:07,569

so he followed behind but like good for

 

884

00:36:05,230 --> 00:36:12,400

pip man for being a badass and stepping

 

885

00:36:07,569 --> 00:36:15,130

forward so he's my yeah mine is going to

 

886

00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,380

halter just because I like that he's

 

887

00:36:15,130 --> 00:36:18,910

focused on improving himself and he

 

888

00:36:17,380 --> 00:36:22,059

really wants the best John in the yard

 

889

00:36:18,910 --> 00:36:23,859

and then he really only is attacking Sam

 

890

00:36:22,059 --> 00:36:25,420

because he's commanded to he's not

 

891

00:36:23,859 --> 00:36:28,599

getting any pleasure out of it like

 

892

00:36:25,420 --> 00:36:30,130

grass does and he's with them at dinner

 

893

00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:32,289

and he's laughing and joking and then

 

894

00:36:30,130 --> 00:36:34,240

when sam joins him you know he's sitting

 

895

00:36:32,289 --> 00:36:36,450

next to Holder and I think that's

 

896

00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:38,680

telling that you know Holder isn't

 

897

00:36:36,450 --> 00:36:41,319

immediately like get the fuck out of

 

898

00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,579

here so yeah father he seems like he's

 

899

00:36:41,319 --> 00:36:44,740

good with a sword and he could be

 

900

00:36:42,579 --> 00:36:47,200

getting better and so we need all the

 

901

00:36:44,740 --> 00:36:49,240

sorts we can get you're the brother all

 

902

00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,849

that gets my inductee but you guys

 

903

00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:56,230

should write us in and let us know your

 

904

00:36:51,849 --> 00:36:59,799

inductees for John for and whoever was

 

905

00:36:56,230 --> 00:37:02,470

it Ned six next we'll be next we also

 

906

00:36:59,799 --> 00:37:03,250

have Sansa to and cat five coming up

 

907

00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:05,619

woohoo

 

908

00:37:03,250 --> 00:37:07,180

so give us your your inductees to the

 

909

00:37:05,619 --> 00:37:09,220

Brotherhood for those chapters yeah you

 

910

00:37:07,180 --> 00:37:11,049

have any talking points about this

 

911

00:37:09,220 --> 00:37:13,420

chapter that you want us to rehash or

 

912

00:37:11,049 --> 00:37:15,759

you disagree agree with let us know you

 

913

00:37:13,420 --> 00:37:17,710

can hit us up on twitter at manners with

 

914

00:37:15,759 --> 00:37:20,019

out Nate it's pretty active on there we

 

915

00:37:17,710 --> 00:37:22,900

are on Facebook at facebook.com slash

 

916

00:37:20,019 --> 00:37:24,910

Brotherhood podcast we got the Instagram

 

917

00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:27,279

half Brotherhood without you can find us

 

918

00:37:24,910 --> 00:37:30,490

on iTunes we would love a rate and

 

919

00:37:27,279 --> 00:37:33,130

review and I know we also we're on

 

920

00:37:30,490 --> 00:37:37,089

patreon without manners patreon.com

 

921

00:37:33,130 --> 00:37:39,430

slash without manners and well you know

 

922

00:37:37,089 --> 00:37:42,069

gmail without manners Brotherhood at

 

923

00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:44,079

gmail.com hey those are all the socials

 

924

00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:46,059

so yeah write to us let us know what

 

925

00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:49,029

you're thinking if you got any theories

 

926

00:37:46,059 --> 00:37:51,130

thoughts inductees whatever you know

 

927

00:37:49,029 --> 00:37:51,460

we're there we checked the emails true

 

928

00:37:51,130 --> 00:37:53,980

dat

 

929

00:37:51,460 --> 00:37:55,900

so we hope to hear from you guys soon

 

930

00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:59,470

and we will catch you on the next book

 

931

00:37:55,900 --> 00:38:00,760

chapter which will be dead 6 hasta

 

932

00:37:59,470 --> 00:38:02,980

lasagna valo

 

933

00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,599

2 hair I don't know what I'm fucking

 

934

00:38:02,980 --> 00:38:06,490

saying right now man I guess we're not

 

935

00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:07,900

leaving so guess you're hanging out with

 

936

00:38:06,490 --> 00:38:09,540

the Brotherhood a little longer

 

937

00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:14,189

peace Ella desert

 

938

00:38:09,540 --> 00:38:14,189

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939

00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:23,630

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