On this bonus episode, Jared talks to Chelsea Vaugh (@chelseavaughn) about Bachelor in Paradise and what she’s been up to since we last saw her on the show. She describes her transition from the corporate world to modeling, then applying to be on The Bachelor when she heard it would be Matt James. They talk producers, the reality of reality television, and Bachelor crew egg freezing – yeah, you read that correctly. You can tune in to her new podcast, Vaughnerable, for more convos on these topics – we’ll happily take all the BTS we can get. Check out our latest promo codes here: https://betches.com/promos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices