Dr. Bob gets the inside scoop of what went down inside Trump's FDA from the former commissioner himself, Dr. Stephen Hahn. In his first interview since stepping down on January 20th, Steve recounts his dizzying year heading the agency, including his decisions to grant Emergency Use Authorizations to hydroxychloroquine and convalescent plasma, how he ultimately defended a science-based vaccine approval process, and the unprecedented political pressure he felt throughout. Plus, how he's processing everything that happened now that he's been out of D.C. for a few weeks.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

• Keep up to date on everything the FDA is doing with COVID-19: https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/counterterrorism-and-emerging-threats/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19 
• Learn about the FDA's recent decision to update their EUA for convalescent plasma: https://www.wsj.com/articles/fda-limits-use-of-convalescent-plasma-as-covid-19-treatment-11612537239 
• Read more about the political pressure Steve says he faced while leading the FDA under President Trump: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/fda-trump-pressure-coronavirus-vaccine-460402 
• Check out this article on the politicized vaccine approval process: https://abcnews.go.com/US/sigh-relief-fda-chief-stephen-hahn-held-ground/story?id=74739442 
• Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/

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