How can NFTs be supplemental to your business? Kipp and Kieran are joined by Katie Chen (CEO/Co-Founder at Kairos) to chat all things NFTs - future use cases for your business, how you can use NFTs to create more loyalty around your customers/employees, and how this tokenized technology will bring more ownership to your users, and more! Who is Katie Chen? Katie Chen is the CEO and co-founder Kairos, a company creating a suite of no-code tools to enable creation, publishing, selling and adoption of NFTs for the masses. Previously, they have lead product design at Airbnb and Slack.  Check out Katie’s work! Kairos http://kairos.art Twitter https://twitter.com/8apixel  LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/katiepchen/ We’re on Twitter! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed https://twitter.com/matgpod  Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.