The phrase “Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion” is buzz-word-ier than ever, but what does it really take to empower workers and reduce racialized harm in the places where we spend so many of our waking hours? And when is it OK to simply stop trying?

In this second episode of a three-part series, guest host Alex Sujong Laughlin (Senior Producer at Transmitter Media) invites Gautam Srikishan (Producer at the On Being Project) and Snigdha Sur (Founder and CEO of The Juggernaut) to discuss their own experiences with creating more inclusive and equitable workplaces — whether that involves organizing your fellow workers into a union or breaking away from big media companies entirely to start your own workplace.

Along the way, Snigdha, Gautam, and Alex also open up about how difficult it is to take on this responsibility... especially when it’s hard to see the results of your efforts. 

Credits:

• Produced by James Boo and Julia Shu
• Edited by Julia Shu and James Boo
• Sound mix by Julia Shu and Timothy Lou Ly
• Self Evident theme music by Dorian Love
• Our Executive Producer is Ken Ikeda

More From Today’s Guests

• Gautam Srikishan — @gsrikishan (Twitter), @floatingfast (Instagram)
• Snigdha Sur — @snigdhasur (Twitter), @_thejuggernaut (Instagram)
• Subscribe to The Juggernaut
• Check out this collection of “Labor Stories” recorded using the StoryCorps app
• Alex Sujong Laughlin — @alexlaughs (Twitter)

Recommended Reading

• “How bosses are (literally) like dictators” by Elizabeth Anderson for Vox
• “Buzzfeed Layoffs and the False Promise of ‘Unions Aren’t For Us,’” Fast Company
• “StoryCorps, of all Places, Is Running an Anti-Union Campaign” by Hamilton Nolan for SPLINTER
• “The Aggressive Anti-Union Campaign at StoryCorps” By Stephanie Russel-Kraft for The Nation
• “Glass Walls” by James T. Green
• “The business case for diversity in the workplace is now overwhelming” by Vijay Eswaran for the World Economic Forum