2016 Olympic triathlon champion Gwen Jorgensen joins us this week. Gwen was happy working as an accountant when USA Triathlon persuaded her to join their set up in 2010. A year on and she had qualified for the London Olympics. By 2014 she was dominant and she stormed to gold at the 2016 Rio Olympics. Then she walked away from the sport to have a family and then announced her new goals, to win gold at the Tokyo Olympics in the marathon.

You'll hear

07:46 we talk about motivation. One of the biggest talents is having internal drive and motivation. "The easy runs are sometimes the hard ones"

13:25 Her main goal this year is the Olympic trials "I'm excited and I'm in a good place. Since doing running and switching from marathon to track, I've been extremely inconsistent, but I feel I had that in triathlon too it's not easy to deal with inconsistencies, but I can see improvements"

18:26 Have the last 5 years been the hardest as an elite sports person? "In triathlon, everyone thinks that I won everything, but at the beginning of my career I lost a lot. It's always enjoyable when you win and when you are struggling, it's hard, but I am loving running"

20.30 Shifting goals

24:20 Does she see her Tokyo marathon goal as a failure? "The marathon is still the end goal and I want to come back to it after track."

26:35 Her time as a swimmer and why she has learned not to get wrapped up in her results. "At the end of the day, if I perform bad, it doesn't mean I'm worth anything less."

31:35 What was the conversation she had with Nicola Spirig on the run at the Rio Olympics? What were they saying to each other?

34:50 On motherhood and balance.

40:03 We talk periods

47:03 Have you ever regretted retiring from triathlon? I miss winning, everyone likes winning

53:15 What did she make of Beth Potter's performance

59:50 The art of eatcations

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