The Verge's Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, Alex Cranz, and Sean O'Kane discuss electric vehicle startup Rivian becoming a publicly traded company after executing one of the biggest initial public offerings in history. The crew also cover multiple stories about Apple from this week, Microsoft's Windows 11 SE release, and a new Surface Laptop for schools. Further reading: Rivian goes public in one of the biggest IPOs ever Rivian’s mega IPO is a good test of the meme stock craze Judge orders Apple to allow external payment options for App Store by December 9th, denying stay Apple must allow other forms of in-app purchase, rules judge in Epic v. Apple Apple backs off of breaking Face ID after DIY iPhone 13 screen replacements Tim Cook says he owns cryptocurrency Apple hires Tesla’s former Autopilot software director Johnson & Johnson’s CEO joins Apple’s board iPhone 13 Pro vs. Pixel 6 Pro: what 2,000 photos tell us Microsoft announces Windows 11 SE, a new Chrome OS competitor Microsoft’s new $249 Surface Laptop SE is its first true Chromebook competitor Microsoft partners with Meta to integrate Teams into its Facebook-like Workplace Microsoft fixes Windows 11 features failing due to an expired certificate  Updating The Verge’s background policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices