ESPN host Jay Williams started covering basketball, after his legendary collegiate career at Duke and his short time playing for the Chicago Bulls. Lately that means he’s also covering race, as professional athletes speak out against racial injustice.

He joins host Porter Braswell to talk about the lack of racial representation in basketball leadership, what corporate America can learn from the NBA about reckoning with race at work, and how he approaches professional situations when he’s been the “only” in a room.