(Recorded October 29, 2017) In this special bonus episode, Brian and Jack got some time to catch up with Spider-Gwen artist and co-creator (and good friend of our show) ROBBI RODRIGUEZ to take a closer “creator commentary” look at the long road to the current Gwenom arc, its themes of burden, loss, and loneliness, and what it could mean for the character going forward. Yeah, it’s dark stuff, and our conversation gets a little heavy in places, but there are some laughs to help keep things balanced as we go behind the scenes of issues 7-25. We cover a lot in this conversation – art imitating life,  staying strong in the face of adversity, the appeal of Gwen and Miles as a couple, Matt Murdock as the guy we love to hate, Spring Break Wolverine, the potential return of the Amazing Eight, the genesis of Gwenom, and hints at what (and who!) will be there when the Gwenom arc ends… You can find Robbi at: * Frankie Get Your Gun * Twitter * DeviantArt * Facebook * Instagram HUGE THANKS to Robbi for taking the time out of his busy schedule to chat with us! Links: * Ultimate Spin at iTunes * Ultimate Spin at Stitcher * Ultimate Spin at Google Play * Ultimate Spin at Facebook * Twitter: @theultimatespin * Ultimate Spin at Instagram Thanks for listening! We’d love to hear from you!  Send us your comments at feedback@ultimatespinpodcast.com!