In this episode we talked about some whale news including updates on North Atlantic right whales, manatees, and upcoming conferences. We also talked about a film project that Adam was involved in and the Octopus Teacher. Katlyn also had a recommendation for the film I Am Greta on Hulu. We had some great discussions around the contributions of whales to the environment and how they contribute more to the terrestrial ecosystem than we originally realized. We also shared information about a new paper that was published in regard to vessel distance and foraging disruption in Southern resident killer whales and had a lengthy discussion about it afterward. If you were to sum up the main discussions we had, we were wrestling with what is the cost vs benefits of healthy and unhealthy whale populations and watching them as an ecotourism industry. Big questions to grapple with, but we hope to continue those conversations.