In this special bonus episode of The Forum Podcast, Lilian Eilers (The Blue Ocean Company) answer questions from listeners that attended our December 16, 2021 webinar Demystifying Culture: Building an Inclusive Culture that Lasts.

Lilian Eilers answer questions from our listening audience around these talking points:

• What is SWAM?
• Doesn’t pandering to the SWAM group have a reinforcing effect on their already disproportionate power and privilege?
• How can we prevent our culture change mission from becoming a struggle for power or domination?
• Does SWAM reinforce superiority and dominance?
• How to address a scarcity versus abundance mindset, especially with the SWAM group?
• How we can make the shift from extrinsic to intrinsic?
• What does it look like to promote psychological safety?
• How to make the "business" case for first responders (Fire Department/EMS etc.).
• What are the distinctions between urgency and speed? Where can a balance be found between the two to advance culture change?

For additional context and insight into this topic and conversation, watch the replay of Demystifying Culture: Building an Inclusive Culture that Lasts.