In our weekly NASCAR on NBC Podcast feature during the 2019 Cup playoffs, Kyle Petty discusses the surprising gambit by Kevin Harvick and the No. 4 team (1:00); did he rope a dope the JGR cars? (2:30); why so many drivers struggled with traction compound in the first half at Texas (4:00); Denny’s mistake and what it says about his championship makeup (6:00); why Phoenix offers so many layers of redemption for Hamlin (8:30); why Denny needs to be Michael Jordan in Phoenix (10:00); KP’s theory on other drivers “messing” with Hamlin (11:30); fun anecdotes about Kyle Petty the teenager learning some lessons about the toughest guys in NASCAR history (13:15); who was tougher, David Pearson or Cale Yarobrough (15:15); Joey Logano’s championship mettle (16:30); the essence of title-caliber teams (19:00); the agony of Denny’s championship quest (21:00); Kyle Busch’s relief after Texas (22:30); why KP believes the 200-win mark detracts from something greater for No. 18 (23:30); Let’s talk intentional cautions! Here are Kyle Larson's thoughts (26:00); And the role that Kyle believes NASCAR has played in the trend (28:30); “there’s no doubt in my mind Bubba spun that car to get a caution, and I do not fault him at all” (30:00); Tony Stewart’s thoughts (33:00); and why some intentional cautions are worse than others (35:00)